Talk:Candice Bergen/Archives/2013

"Her Later Carreer"
Wouldn't it be better to state "her recent work has included character roles..." as it is ongoing?

She could still act for 20 more years, and maybe switch to drama or sitcoms, which means her "later career" has yet to come.

69.171.160.110 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC).

I also think "character roles" should be changed to "supporting roles", as the point is that they were not leading roles. All roles are by definition character roles. I am aware of the trend towards calling actors who have many supporting roles "character actors", but I think it's unclear, as all actors play characters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.225.247.42 (talk) 23:00, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

"Considered one of Hollywood's most beautiful women"...
Says who? (I think she's lovely, but I'm not a reliable source)--Marysunshine 00:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I myself think she's absolutely GORGEOUS! Maria DiNapoli, So. Cal. June 19, 2006

Do we really need to quote a source acknowledging her beauty? The source would have to be a study or a survey of people opn Hollywood's most beautiful actresses, which I would think would be hard to come by, or a quote from some biographical blurb claiming she's considered one of the most beautiful women in hollywood, which would be no less opinion than someone here just saying it. I think it's ridiculous to require a citation for this, but I'm not changing it unless someone agrees it's silly. Themightybotox 18:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * There really is no point to mention her beauty, except maybe for very young readers who may not know her, and come to the encyclopedia without knowledge. On a personal note, I was waiting for a traffic light to change in Los Angeles about 1980, turned, and found myself standing right next to her (I knew her from the film Carnal Knowledge). I almost passed out from her beauty, and I'm gay. I couldn't believe that anyone could really look like that. 66.108.4.183 21:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC) Allen Roth


 * Yes, you really do need to quote a source. See Verifiability: “Any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article.” In asking “Says who?” Marysunshine issued a challenge. If there’s no source available to cite, then on what grounds can Wikipedia really say that she’s considered beautiful, ugly, or anything else? This article has claimed something to be a fact: that Bergen was “considered one of Hollywood's most beautiful women.” Who considered her that way? Aren’t there magazines that publish lists of stuff like that every month — most beautiful women, cutest pets, fanciest hairstyles, most eligible bachelors, etc.?
 * Furthermore, the way the sentence is written, it suggests that Bergen being considered one of the most beautiful Hollywood women was the reason she worked as a fashion model. That’s something else that needs to be backed up. (For all I know, maybe she only got a job as a model through connections with her mother.) Splitting the sentence in two would remove the appearance of a causal relationship. --Rob Kennedy 05:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Bergen was definitely considered one of Hollywood's reigning beauties, which is why she worked so much early on in her career despite the mostly dreadful reviews from critics that her performances received. I'll try to find some quote that supports this, though the fact was so much a general consensus that I don't know if it was ever oficialkly LODGED anywhere. Her fashion model beginings were not connected to her mother's previous ties in the industry. Frances worked for the John Robert Powers Agency while Bergen was signed by Eileen Ford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.198.205.2 (talk) 19:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Murphy and Quayle
Since it leads to an interesting insight into CB's real-life views, the mention of Murphy Brown's treatment of the Quayle controversy belongs here. But it's too damn long, and fails to clearly state the one thing it should. Look at it! If you'd never seen the show, would you be able to clearly tell that the writers instituted a storyline where Murphy the reporter is criticized by a fictionalized Dan Quayle?

Nonsensical statement
" radio ventriloquist Edgar Bergen"

Whoever wrote this was obviously not thinking. He was a radio personality but was mainly known as a ventriloquist. With a ventirloquist it must be seen that his/her lips do not move. How would that work on radio ??? I removed the radio part. 85.22.13.199 01:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You have obviously never heard of radio ventriloquist 'Peter Brough' and his doll/dummy 'Archie'. Occasionally appeared on stage but spent most of his life and career doing his act on the radio. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 21:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It makes a little more sense if you also keep in mind that big radio broadcasts had live studio audiences back then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.198.205.2 (talk) 19:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Business ventures?
I recall reading something about her financial ties to the Dolan family (of Cablevision fame). Can anyone support or refute this? --Eastlaw (talk) 19:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

anglicising
how exactly is changing your name to bergen anglicising it? ive never heard of or met a single english or british person with that name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DOUGHARTUNIAN (talk • contribs) 20:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How many English-speaking persons have the names Octavian, Trajan or Hadrian? These names are anglicised versions of the original latin names Octavianus, Trajanus and Hadrianus which English-speaking persons find troublesome to pronounce. In the same manner is Bergen an anglicised version of Berggren.--84.217.122.57 (talk) 11:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Can someone please add this link to article?
This would be a good link for this article. It leads to 4 pages (I think about 100 images?) of Bergen's modeling photographs from the 1960's, at the site "MiniMadMod60s". It shows her magazine covers, fashion layouts, ads for Clairol, Chanel, etc. I don't know how to add this as a link from the main page, though. http://www.minimadmod60s.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3607 (SIGNED -- Carpool Kathleen)

Political activism
A political activist accepting a date with Henry Kissinger sounds like rather a right-wing activist.

Clearly she was over on the other side, so I think her political stance needs to be defined a bit more unambiguously. 86.145.130.29 (talk) 20:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


 * So one can only be a "political activist" or a "right-wing activist"? Not all activists are left-wing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.64.0.252 (talk) 23:04, 12 October 2011 (UTC)