Talk:Carmen Gloria Quintana

Elimination of POV
For User:CieloEstrellado - Please stop trying to insert your POV on every single text about the Pinochet years. If, as you slyly imply, are just interested in a better use of the english language, then DO correct the language, not use the opportunity to insert extraneous adjectives that do not add an iota of information to the text. Also, I would reccomend that you DO NOT add elements of your own unsubstantiated ideas to the article. Facts are welcome, not gratuitous abuse. The facts are horrific enough on their own for them to need to be embellished by false details of what YOU think it may have transpired. The truth usually can defend itself. Thanks. Mel Romero 04:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Changes - Explanation
Fine. I see I will have to expound on the changes, so you won't keep on including misleading information: a) The official version refers to the version presented by the MILITARY PATROL, not by the "dictatorship" as you, in your biased editing, insist. That version is based on their official declarations during the investigation, and is reflected in the official documents of the trial. The government never presented any explanation at the time, simply refering the case as a "investigation in progress" (check the newspaper archives of the time for the official government declarations) b) the local people who found the bodies abandoned on the irrigation ditch DID NOT take them to the local hospital, as you insist on including. They simply notified the police (Carabineros), who in turn, took them to a local hospital (Posta Central), from where they were later derivated to a more specialized hospital. If you don't want to believe the official "dictatorship" documents about that, at least read the declarations of the mother and uncle of Rodrigo Rojas, both contained in their webpages, and readily accessible from the corresponding links. c) I see no purpose in deleting the information about what the injured were doing in the place or what implements were they carrying. Including that information doesn't make them deserving of what happened to them, or the military patrol less guilty. But it gives a sense of fairness in portraying the spirit of the times. I could continue, but I think those 3 examples are enough to prove my point. As for making the entry more readable, and to presume of being able to improve on my english, well, I see those charges as ad hominem, only designed to bolster your weak scholarship, and truly they don't bear any relevance to the matter at hand... Mel Romero 05:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Comments by User:Emilquin
Moved here from the article text:

I just wanted to add that there were two groups that joined at one point. One was carrying all the above mentioned: tires, molotov cocktails, etc, Rodrigo Rojas was part of that group. The other group was carrying nothing, Carmen Gloria Quintana was part of the latter group. Once we joined, some of us (we were four)help to carry tires, and that was it. I know, because I was there. I am Carmen's sister and remember that morning vividly. As for the military version, the fact that they were dumped in a ditch in the outskirts of Santiago speak for itself. The fact that my sister and Rodrigo were severily beaten prior to being set on fire can be was attested by the doctor that examined them at the clinic. Finally, I wanted to point out That Fernandez Dittus only did house arrest. Justice was never served in this case, nor on many other human right abuses during the Chilean dictatorship of Pinochet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilquin (talk • contribs) 20:29, 14 May 2010

Requested move 22 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline (talk) 22:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Carmen Gloria Quintana → Carmen Quintana – There is no other person of same name. Also, the middle name may not be necessary, commonly used or not. I am sure that the proposed name is commonly referring to the subject. George Ho (talk) 04:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:COMMONAME. Vastly referred as Carmen Gloria Quintana (much much more than "Carmen Quintana"). It is not exactly a "middle name", by the way. Asqueladd (talk) 09:40, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


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