Talk:Caroline Weir

Place of Birth
Caroline was born at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley on 20th June 1995 - I should know I am her mother. 2A00:23C5:DA8B:A01:9D2E:4382:F1A4:20E8 (talk) 22:56, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The two latest clubs she plays for - Real Madrid and Manchester City gives the information she was born in Dunfermline while the earliest info I can find was Liverpool's. You'd think clubs would ask the player, although perhaps it just gets passed on from the previous club. The only information found from the internet about Caroline from Paisley is this one.
 * The distance between Dunfermline and Paisley is quite far away so I can't seem to think why this dispute involves these two places that far away. Also looking at the history of the article, most versions have Dunfermline with the Liverpool website providing it. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Tbf the only birth entry with that name and year in Scotland is clearly her, and that is registered in Eastwood & Mearns (beside Paisley). To mum, I take it your family lived in (East?) Renfrewshire at the time, when did youse move to Fife? We can't really change what the article says unless there is a published source to support it (the link above isn't really suitable as it's a primary source, we should be using existing secondary sources like media and stats sites - all of which are currently using Dunfermline after someone at one point made an incorrect guess that 'from Dunfermline = born in Dunfermline'). Crowsus (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I did see one link earlier (which looked like a FB page, so would never be used as a RS) which said they moved from East Rens to Fife when Caroline was six weeks old. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This linedin page gives Paisley as her birthplace and was published 3w ago but I think that's user generated. When it comes to incorrect guessing, as it may be the case that earlier clubs accept 'born in Dunfermline' as correct, if that's wrong (as her mother points out) on popular databases such as Soccerway, this persists for many years, probably since the Hibernian days. Around four years ago, I was discussing a dob issue about a different footballer where it was assumed someone misread information, this one may also be the same: coming from a certain place does not always mean born in that place. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * the player in question should overule anything like this. you cant just tell the actual person theyre wrong about where theyre born. Identifying_and_using_self-published_works youre allowed to use self published for something like this.Muur (talk) 22:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

We can definitely use primary sources. I don't get where this we can't use primary sources is coming from. Obviously, we prefer secondary sources for notability purposes, but WP:PRIMARY does allow the use of primary sources for information clarification. Especially if it's clearly obvious that the information is correct. RedPatch (talk) 14:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)