Talk:Cartman Finds Love

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"Odious racism"
"with the [odious] racism that motivated it."

Odious is not a word used by the author in the link, it is a moralistic view of the writer who should not be allowed in a neutral encyclopaedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.236.27.35 (talk) 20:03, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

What Ryan McGee said in his review was: "'What makes 'Cartman' so strong is the juxtaposition of Eric’s genuine desire to see Token matched up with new girl Nichole and the batshit insane racism that goes into that genuine desire.'"

The use of the word odious was an attempt to paraphrase the phrase McGee used, in order to comply with the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia. Another method sometimes used is to place the original informal phrase used in a direct quote. Both are valid methods when summarizing an source author's words. Using the exactly words, and only the exact words, of an author is not a recognized requirement when paraphrasing a source, so long as the paraphrasing is essentially accurate. Nightscream (talk) 22:34, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok. At least using inverted commas, in order to make people understand it is the Author's point of view.

Should the word "Black" be capitalized?
The headline pretty much sums up the question. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 20:46, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, it shouldn't, so I'll go ahead and decap. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 19:32, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The standard format is to capitalise the "B" in "Black" when the term is used as an ethno-racial identification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.143.126 (talk) 21:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I quoted MOS, what backs up your claim (pertaining to Wikipedia, of course)? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 23:29, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I have protected the article until a resolution can be reached on this matter. Please do not edit while discussing the matter; Edits should only be made once a resolution is reached. Editing without attempting to reach a resolution through a maintained discussion is editwarring, and is a blockable offense. If a resolution cannot be reached on this matter, we can request WP:Third Opinion, Request for Comment, or have a consensus discussion. I do not have a firm opinion on the matter, but I would make the following points/questions:


 * Are the editors who are editing from 81.156.143.126 and 86.141.232.11 and one and the same? This isn't an accusation; I'm just asking, because I know that sometimes IPs change for the same user, and I notice both of these originate from London, so I just want to be clear.


 * To 81.156.143.126, please sign your posts, as it makes it possible for each editor who know who they're talking to. You can do this by typing four tildes (~) at the end of them, which also automatically time stamps them.


 * Also, 81.156.143.126, you stated that "the standard format is to capitalise the "B" in "Black" when the term is used as an ethno-racial identification". Is this a Wikipedia standard, or something external to Wikipedia?


 * To 86.141.232.11 and Hearfourmewesique, please do not revert while a disagreement is ongoing, unless you can point to a policy or guideline that unambiguously supports your position (more on this below).


 * Hearfourmewesique, while 86.141.232.11 appeared be edit warring (and possibly you as well, though I'm not sure--more on that on the next point), was not committing vandalism, as you indicated in your last edit summary, as edit warring and vandalism are distinct behaviors.


 * Hearfourmewesique, you stated that MOS:CAPS is pretty clearly supports your position. Which passage in that policy pertains to this matter? I couldn't find it.

Thanks to you all. Hopefully we'll be able to has this out. :-) Nightscream (talk) 05:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The issue is not as much if it supports my position, but the fact that it doesn't tell us anything about capitalizing races.The anonymous IP reverted me twice after I stated that, while contributing nothing to the discussion. The assumption that the IPs are connected is not presumptious at all, and I could almost guarantee you that they are all the same editor. This might even be a SPI case, and it's probably my next step if this madness doesn't stop soon. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 05:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, I get what you're saying. But keep in mind that even if a policy page or guideline page doesn't spell it out, there may be standards in writing or diction in general, which is why I was asking our friend(s) what "format" he was referencing. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 06:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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I do believe TheWorldIsYourOyster's change of "a" to "an" was done in good faith, I mean most people except for maybe deaf people will think of that abbreviation as "en bee ay".--Countryboy603 (talk) 21:01, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. I'll self-revert. Bishonen &#124; tålk 21:10, 18 May 2021 (UTC).