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August 2018[edit]

This article describes the show as being an "anthology" web series, however it does not appear to be so. All of the show that has aired so far has followed a single cast and a single overarching plot, failing to fulfill the definition of an anthology series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5CE:300:8AAC:5057:BACC:2B2F:868D (talk) 18:56, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018[edit]

Regarding character descriptions and spoilers. Is it really appropriate to reveal plot details in this section, especially if those details provide no clarity on who those characters are? I’m referring to the characters Gordon and Lilith, which prior to my edit revealed their fates at the end of the episode? Shouldn’t this information be provided in the episode description details further below? 2600:8800:7C80:131:78C6:D20F:912D:9823 (talk) 20:10, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no policy regarding which sort of information should placed in "Cast and character" sections or in "Episodes" sections on Wikipedia. There are, however, very clear guidelines on how to deal with spoilers and episode summaries. Per Wikipedia:Spoiler: "Spoilers are no different from any other content and should not be deleted solely because they are spoilers." So basically greater justification is needed to remove this information other than it will spoil information for those who are not up to date with the series. My personal advice to those people would be to stay off of internet pages/articles about those topics until that time that they are caught up. As it relates to episode summaries, per MOS:TVPLOT episode summaries are to be no longer than 150-200 words. As this places a great deal of constraint on the amount of content that be covered in these sections, it is often the case that further information will be provided in places such as the cast and characters section. Hope that cleared a few things up. – BoogerD (talk) 20:17, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But that is not the sole reason for the edit. No other character, including Alan Pangborn and Dennis Zalewski, both of who are more inclusive to the plot of the show, reveal the details of their outcomes. Nor are any of the descriptions as long or revealing as Gordon and Lilith. I was simply trying to make the descriptions more concise. Most importantly I don’t see how providing so much detail provides any clarification on who these characters are or how they fit into the series. I also think telling people to “stay off the internet” until they’ve caught up is a reasonable request. 2600:8800:7C80:131:78C6:D20F:912D:9823 (talk) 20:31, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Than the answer to that discrepancy is to add further information to those characters not not to remove that, that already exists. Also, no one is suggesting that one stay off the internet to avoid information a specific television show. Of course that would be unreasonable and rather silly. However, it seems within the real of possibility that one might be able to avoid a Wikipedia page dedicated to a topic that are trying to spoil for themselves. Either way, Wikipedia policy is pretty clear on how "spoilers" are to be handled. – BoogerD (talk) 20:40, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Pangborn[edit]

@MorningThoughts: The AFD was closed to merge into Castle Rock (Stephen King), so it has to merged there, not here. MOS:TV does not support character entries like this into TV articles like this. It's not up to you to decide if the editors apparently all got the article wrong; merge it into the correct article, then start a review if you believe the article should be different to that which was stated in the close statement. -- /Alex/₂₁ 10:59, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This character is from the TV series not the topography, so I merged it there (per common sense and WP:IAR) despite the AfD participants calling for merger to the topography article. MorningThoughts (talk) 11:01, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MorningThoughts, that's not up to you to decide.The AFD was closed to merge into Castle Rock (Stephen King). It gets merged there. Disagree? That's up to you to discuss elsewhere. I have also notified the AFD closer of this discussion. -- /Alex/₂₁ 11:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have an issue with it. However, this shows a great flaw in the AfD system. MorningThoughts (talk) 11:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alex 21 is correct on both counts, and most importantly that a consensus of editors at AfD decided to merge it into Castle Rock. Britishfinance (talk) 11:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MorningThoughts, IAR could have applied if AFD wasn't such a heavily-trafficked venue, and it especially did not when you were reverted and decide to edit-war over the content. Please complete the merge, as I see you have not merged the content into the correct article, thus only deleting it so far. I have further posted to WT:AFD for wider opinions. -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:20, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say the redirect should probably go to the original merge target, but the relevant content definitely belongs here. There would be little point merging any of the TV-specific content to that article. TTN (talk) 20:11, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TTN, then hold another AFD and gain a consensus to merge it here. The original closing of the AFD and the consensus of the multiple editors at that AFD says nothing about this article. -- /Alex/₂₁ 20:22, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned in the undo, merging after an AfD is an editorial task. When something ends as merge, there is no mandate to actually merge. If the article doesn't need the content, then it doesn't need the content. If the content is 100% desired, it can be fully copied over. I agree that the redirect should go to that article, but editors can determine that some content is more suitable for another article. TTN (talk) 20:25, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at how it was actually merged to this article, the only content that should actually remain is the last set of sources supposedly about the character's popularity. The rest of the content should be cut as irrelevant. The current summary in the character section is sufficient. Maybe one or two relevant paragraphs should be merged to the other article. TTN (talk) 20:36, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Right you are on it being an editorial task, but when they make the decision on what to merge or not merge, they clearly need to take the AFD's result into consideration. For example, I couldn't merge the content into 2020 United States presidential election, could I? Because it was never discussed in the AFD or its result. Nor was this article. Same concept.

Merge what you will, but take the result into consideration. -- /Alex/₂₁ 23:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The appropriate place for the discussion of the merge from Alan Pangborn is at Talk:Castle Rock (Stephen King)#Merge from Alan Pangborn as per the notice at the top of that page. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:59, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joy Wilkes spoiler[edit]

Take out the freakin' spoiler about this character being Annie's half-sister and not daughter, as we originally are made to believe. Thanks a lot to whoever put that in, btw. Really cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.135.116 (talk) 17:38, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A scene in recap[edit]

There is brief scene in the recap in episode 8. Ruth is seen watching TV. Through the news on the TV she learns that Kid is a suspect behind the arson in the psychiatric hospital. But if I'm not mistaken there is no such scene - Ruth watching TV news and finding out about the Kid - in previous episodes. Ravi arnie (talk) 22:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]