Talk:Catherine Jagiellon

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Portrait removed
A well known portrait of Queen Catherine (albeit before she was queen) was removed today from the info box with the edit summary comment "Removing the image of Sophia Jagiellon". I have never seen anyone question that the removed portrait is of Catherine. Into the info box a fantasy painting of the Duke and Duchess of Finland in prison was moved from lower down. I am reversing the edit because I assume it was an error in good faith. If I am wrong in so doing I apologize, but I would like to see a source for any assertion that this portrait is not of Catherine. SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed the portrait because the Commons have the portrait (and many similar portraits) described as being a portrait of Catherine's sister Sophia (see Category:House of Jagiellon). Some other Wikipedias (the Polish Wiki, the French Wiki, and the Spanish Wiki) use only the fantasy portrait. Furthermore, the Polish Wiki's article about Sophia Jagiellon uses the disputed portrait. I could be wrong, though; I only removed it because I thought it would be safer to use the fantasy portrait rather than the portrait which could represent Sophia. Surtsicna (talk) 18:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have now noticed that the the images of Sophia and Catherine are very similar, which means that I was probably wrong. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I felt sure you were acting in good faith. Thank you for clarifying this. There is a certian portrait of Queen Catherine as queen at Commons, that on her tomb monument. We could use that instead. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Humanum errare est :) Could you please give me a link to the portrait? The only images of Catherine Jagiellon's tomb that I can see are the images of her effigy. Surtsicna (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I mean the reclining sculpture. Not great, but a likeness for sure. See her category. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. The consensus is very strong. However I do note that there is one issue unaddressed... it is just possible that the name Catherine Jagellon might be well enough attested in reliable English sources for this to override the arguments below. I don't think this is the case, but if a case could be made along those lines, then this move should be revisited. Andrewa (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Catherine Jagellon → Catherine Jagiellon – Seems Jagiellon is the most appropriate dynastic name for her - see Jagiellonian dynasty. SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support - as above. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Support, this one should be obvious. Volunteer Marek (talk) 15:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support, it is the correct spelling of her surname, for every article relating to her family has it spelled as Jagiellon. Lcook77 (talk) 06:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. The proposal makes sense. Surtsicna (talk) 10:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. As per the motivation given by SergeWoodzing.--Aciram (talk) 14:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Nobility = Royalty again
If I'm not mistaken this revert is another result of the widely spread & rather tedious misconception that royalty and nobility are the same thing. Queen Catherine was a daughter of a king, a royal princess of Poland, thus not nobility, and she should never be categorized as such. I will be reverting this again unless someone can show otherwise. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * You need a wider discussion if you want to alter this. Category:European royalty is a sub category of Category:European nobility, and the same is true at country level.  Rathfelder (talk) 12:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Altering the English language is not a Wikipedia matter, no matter what misconceptions some Wikipedians are afflicted with.. Nobility and royalty are not the same thing. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Religion
I have now done this revert for the second time in an week. Her religion is a vital part of her bio - with which a user should be familiar before changes are made twice! - and led to warfare for her son. SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC)