Talk:Cebuano grammar

Assessment
I assessed with low importance as it is merely a part of a language and not the language itself.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

whoever had made this new article, he just cut it from the original cebuano language article of which he left with no copy and paste it here. that article was created through the contribution of several anonymous persons in the net. one of them is joseph walay hanaw (cel# +639204955402, +639232403657).

joseph regrets that the maker of this new article has deliberately erased the explanation joseph had made that ta (spelled here as 'ta, assuming it is a clipped version of kita which is not really the case) does not always mean you(nominative case) but would mean i(nominative case) when the object of the verb is you(gitagan-an case i.e. either ka, ikaw, mo, or kamo). this explanation is important because such form is common in the language and in fact one of the examples uses such form.

joseph appreciates the effort people tried in standardization of cebuano but advises those who are in this undertaking do things a little bit conservatively. i am reffering to the unnecessary addition of an apostrophe to short forms such as ko, ka, ta, mi, and mo. although most of this would appear as clipped form of the long form such spelling has no tradition and in the case of ta would only put unnecessary confusion.

moreover this deliberate editting without consideration of the output of the contributor only discourage future contributors to put more out put here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.54.153.40 (talk) 02:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Also another point, Joseph says that gayod( more commonly known as jud) and gud are two different words. They would never mean the same. Any Cebuano speaker will know the difference between "ikaw jud" and "ikaw gud" and that Cebuano speaker know they do not mean the same...


 * "Ikaw gyud" or "Ikaw gayud"..Si lapu lapu (talk) 19:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)si lapu lapu

Hey fellers how about we change the translation for the word "sinehan" to cinema because sinehan is cinema, although "movies" is a reasonable translation it is not as accurate as "cinema" and can cause confusion. It is perfectly valid for an english speaker to say "We're going to the cinema.". Also I suggest changing the translation for "plasa" to "plaza" instead of "square" because likewise with sinehan, "plaza" is a better translation then "square". Translating "plasa" to "square" is a poor translation because like "movies" it can refer to other things. Dr Gwapo (talk) 12:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

=Representing the glottal stop= What is the the standard way of representing the glottal stop intervocalically or within the word. I've seen Tag-iya and Tag'iya. Which is more common? Whichever it might be, it needs to be implemented because the article looks inconsistent.

Joemaza (talk) 08:41, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

=Native terms= The terms kinsa, tag-iya, etc. makes the article less accessible to readers and can be replaced by equivalent English terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JARGON#Foreign_terms

Joemaza (talk) 01:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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Verb Conjugations in Negative Sentences
This article does not clearly explain when nasugdan or pasugdan verbs should be used with negative sentences. The article makes it appear as if only future tense (or pasugdan) verbs are correct for negative sentences using "wala," through its example sentences. It only uses a past tense (or nasugdan) verb conjugation for one negative sentence, "wala nako giinom ang tubig." This is inconsistent with the usage of future conjugations in every other example sentence. However, this is a correct sentence, and I know that Cebuano speakers use past tense (or nasugdan) verbs for many other negative sentences. For example, a Cebuano speaker would say, "wala ko nakabasa," or "wala ko nibasa," rather than "wala ko makabasa," or "wala ko mobasa." I am not sure if there is a rule for when future tense conjugations or imperative conjugations should be used (i.e. if it is only in formal writing, if it is technically the more correct way to speak, or if there is an underlying grammar rule) as opposed to past tense conjugations. Does anyone else have any insight to this issue? At the very least, this article needs to mention that not all Cebuano speakers will use future verb conjugations with negative sentences. Jacelyn nd (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

asa naman si sleeping beauty oy? 103.161.60.79 (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)