Talk:Central Sava Valley

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was Not moved - (non-admin closure) Discussion has been on-going for a while now. Very little to state a support for move. Wesley ☀  Mouse  18:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Central Sava Valley → Zasavje – Present title "Central Sava Valley" is misleading - Reliable English-language sources actually apply the term to areas significantly downstream from this particular area in between Zagreb and Slavonski Brod (source), much like one may expect from the wording of the term, hence the misleading nature of this particular title. If the present title is used in Slovenia, it should be noted by the article, but not in its title. As far as proposed title is concerned, I see no problem with using of native name - it is after all a geographical term not much unlike Posavina. A similar request is posted at Lower Sava Valley article. Tomobe03 (talk) 22:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC) Oppose - I agree that "Central Sava Valley" is misleading in terms of the entire length of the Sava, but Zasavje is a Slovene construction that is semantically transparent to Slovene speakers and opaque to English speakers (like Podravje 'Drava Valley', Posočje 'Soča Valley' in Slovenia and Podonavje 'Danube Valley', Ponilje 'Nile Valley' outside Slovenia; cf. also Zadrečka dolina 'Dreta Valley' with prefixed za-). A better move (retaining the English name) would be Central Sava Valley → Central Sava Valley (Slovenia). Doremo (talk) 11:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Posavina should probably also be renamed to something more English; as the article notes in the intro, it is "a Slavic name for ... the Sava river basin." Otherwise, by the native-name standard we'd be calling the Nile Valley the Wādī an Nīl and the Amazon Basin the Bacia do rio Amazonas. Doremo (talk) 11:24, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The following is quote of further discussion between Doremo and me.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:48, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose. See similar discussion at Talk:Lower Sava Valley. No need to disambiguate, and the article lead should and does make it clear what the article is about. If and when there are other articles about other regions by this name, then perhaps disambiguate. No justification for using the Slovenian name. Andrewa (talk) 20:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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