Talk:Central bearded dragon

Missing Vital Information
There is no information on the microbiome of the central bearded dragon, nor on its diet. These two categories are important because if research were to be conducted with Pogona vitticeps as the model, it would be important to know what to feed the juveniles and adults, and also how to maintain its gut bacteria if necessary. Another glaringly important category that is left out is enemies, besides the virus Agamid adenovirus that ruins the central bearded dragon’s immune system. This category is important as we know how Pogona vitticeps might react to enemies, but there is no context to what enemies it may encounter and how it engages in between species interactions.

Common species in captivity
I'm surprised to see P. minor listed as one of the two most common species in captivity when I'm sure globally it isn't (perhaps locally?). After P. vitticeps, P. barbata and P. henrylawsoni appear to be the most common in captivity. Although I'm not even convinced of the relevance of this on this page. I'll see if anyone contests before making edits.(DSWebb (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Needs cleanup
Is there actually a Bearded Dragon? Also, you might want to try to use correct spellings as many of the spellings that you use are not in the English Language. In addition, when writing encyclopedia articles, refrain from using the word "you" - AlexPlank, 25th October 2003

Learn Latin
ALL scientific names come from Latin NOT ENGLISH. I agree farenheit should be capitalized but Pogona vitticeps is a scientific name and therefore is correct.

James Angell

compacted?
Compacted? impacted? I'll check which is prefered. LA RoeDoe 07:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC) Impacted is the prefered.

substrate
Forget sand; the newest fad in substrates is non-adhesive shelf paper. It is thick and cushiony, smooth enough to wipe clean yet has good traction for little paws without fear of catching claws. Washable too; just take it out and hose it down or scrub it in a washtub. Hangs dry in a couple of hours. I know, I know, I sound like a comercial, but it works. LA RoeDoe

Beardies as Pets
This is a really good article on caring for your pet Beardie. And, that's about it. Should we add to it? Stuff about breeding and color morphs or more about the lifestyles of wild Beardeds or... Maybe we could just rename the article? LA RoeDoe

Move
I don't know if there is any regular contributors here, but I think I should ask before I go on. Is anyone opposed to me moving this page to Central Bearded Dragon. This article is obviously about that particular species, and having just "Bearded Dragon" as the article name is misleading. --liquidGhoul 10:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Move
I'd suggest not moving it, or appending it with additional information. While I understand your technical clarity, I think that anyone looking for information about a central bearded dragon will search for "bearded dragon". This is what most people have come to associate with "bearded dragon". Perhaps more clarity should be ammeded to address the different species... if a move is made, I really think that this page should become a summary of all different bearded dragon species and link to pages that discuss each species in more detail. If moved, I don't know if Central Bearded Dragon is the most common term to use. Inland Bearded Dragon I think is a more commonly used term, but that may depend on where you live. Pogona Vitticeps may work, but I doubt people will know to search that. :) 16:55, 3 March 2006 (PST)


 * I would implement something similar to the Green tree frog page. --liquidGhoul 01:01, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that would probably be a good way to go about it. Are there other pages for the different species ready, though?  Maybe when further refinement is available that would be an ideal time to separate things out?  Until then it may just add complexity.  Just a thought.  :) --Asleeis 12:23, 5 March 2006 (PST)

Redirect
It seems it might be a little difficult for someone unfamiliar with the latin names to find this article...Since Pogona vitticeps is by far the most commonly kept variety, "Bearded Dragon" should redirect to the Central Bearded Dragon page for this reason, with the option at the top for ambiguity. --Elgringo18 00:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Content should be combined under Bearded Dragon, which is a generic term for Pogona vitticeps that is inclusive of Eastern Bearded Dragon, Central Bearded Dragon, Inland Bearded Dragon, etc. 68.42.215.206 05:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC) peftypefty, 12/13/2006

Pet section
I have decided to tackle this article, and Eastern Water Dragon, as it has had the clean-up tag on it for far too long. I would like to pretty much remove most of the pet section. This is an encyclopaedia, not a pet keeping guide. I think it should be similar to the pet section on White's Tree Frog, which is another native Australian animal which is a popular pet throughout the world. This will greatly reduce the size of the article, but I will also add extra sections to it to beef it back up. I am remove the redundant parts of the section now, so if anyone has objections, could you please voice them here before reverting. Thanks --liquidGhoul 08:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Bearded dragons are omnivores and consume a wide variety of foods such as salads, crickets, mealworms (however mealworms should not be given to young dragons due to potential impaction issues), and as treats, superworms. Collection of insects from the owners neighbourhood is not recommended due to possible pesticide contamination. Never allow any reptiles to eat fireflies, just one firefly will instantly kill most reptiles (including dragons) as they are highly toxic. The dragon must be fed a salad diet of vegetable material such as collard greens, turnip greens, and other dark leaf vegetables.  Never feed with spinach or iceberg lettuce, for they prevent the absorption of some of the important nutrients (By creating oxalates). The animal should also be given vitamin supplements, most importantly calcium made from ground-up oyster shells.


 * Bearded dragons are desert lizards and need a cage which is both hot and dry. Bearded dragons prefer a basking site in their cage that reaches around 95–100°F or 35–38°C during the day (100–105°F or 38–40°C for babies). A dragon cage should have a warm end (around 90°F or 32°C) and a cool end (around 75–80°F or 24–27°C). Because they are native to the Australian desert, they are accustomed to temperature drops to as low as 55°F at night. Humidity should be under 30%; dragons get most of their hydration from their salad. Even so, they should be misted every day to prevent dehydration. They prefer sand substrate (but only after they are 8 inches long, otherwise they may eat it and become compacted which can be fatal). Never use any commercial "reptile litter" or "calci-sand." There are no reptile manufacturing laws, and these commercial substrates often cause compaction, leading to death of the reptile. Bearded dragons are not arboreal, but do enjoy climbing on rocks and driftwood.


 * These reptiles are often out during the day, therefore they require special lighting in addition to the heat lamps. They need UVB lights so that they can absorb their calcium properly.


 * The bearded dragon is a medium sized lizard, generally around 14-16 inches from nose tip to tail tip these days (mostly due to inbreeding over the past decade or so), although German Giants can be up to 24 inches long. Healthy, well cared for bearded dragons from quality bloodlines will regularly reach over 20 inches in length.


 * Inland Bearded Dragons are the most popular 'beardie' in the reptile hobby; however, there are many other species of Bearded Dragon (all remain endemic to Australia). These other species including the Common Bearded Dragon (Pogona barbata) often inhabit wooded areas, as well as the occasional back yard. 


 * There are currently a couple of major medical conditions affecting captive bred Bearded Dragons in the US (although there have been reports in Japan, Great Britain and Europe too) which are Yellow Fungus Disease and Adenovirus. More information on these can be found at The Reptile Rooms.


 * Recently bearded dragons have been discovered to be mildly venomous. People bitten often experience painful swellings and prolonged bleeding. But if bitten you should not worry. The delivery system is extremely primitive, and the amounts of venom are minute. It is not designed to kill humans, and owners should not fear their pet dragons. Due to their docile nature, dragons will rarely bite humans.


 * Wow, I found barely any of it suitable. I am going to add small sections of this back, but at the moment, I need to get rid of all of it. It is too messily organised, and most of it is not suitable for an encyclopaedia. When I write the pet section for the article, I will add some of the above that is actually suitable. Thanks --liquidGhoul 08:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

This was a good piece of work. I understand that the majority of the people worldwide who would be interested in both writing and reading this page would be pet owners, but Wikipedia must be consistant in its treatment of all species and groups in terms of the baisc page. Obviously if we can demonstrate that there is a need for a whole page on Petcare of them, we can make one, but the basic page must have everything we need about every aspect of the animal without being too long.

IceDragon64 (talk) 11:33, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a pet-care guide, but I feel that we could retain some of the information removed, including perhaps some details on its diet and venomous bite. Although they are applicable to pet-care, they are also relevant to the lizard outside of pet care. Just my thoughts --Spirit LG Sep 2021

Opinions on removal of a false statement
Is anyone opposed to the removal of the statement "females are generally smaller than males"? Ive been breeding bearded dragons for 5 years and Ive currently got 7 adults. I have never seen any significant evidence that would lead a resonable person to beleive that females are generally smaller than males. The only significant size difference between males and females is that at adult age Males have a slightly broader head than females of the same size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JonM.D. (talk • contribs) 11:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Making changes
"In captivity, they can be incubated in a styrofoam fish box, but without a male lizard the eggs the female lay will not live" has been removed and replaced with: "In captivity, they can be incubated in a styrofoam fish box, but without a male lizard the eggs the female lay will not be fertile. However a female bearded dragon can retain sperm, and thus produce fertile eggs even after being separated from a male."

I'm also currently working on the Agamid Adenovirus article if anyone is knowledgeable and wants to help. TariStar (talk) 02:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

"Pet Bearded Dragons world wide are threatened by Agamid adenovirus, a virus that when showing symptoms compromises the immune system of the dragon, and leads to death from other diseases, however majority of the infections are sub-clinical. Sub-clinically infected animals show no signs themselves but are active carriers of the disease and will infect other Bearded Dragons." was updated by me. Being the person mainly working on the Agamid Adenovirus 1 article I didn't feel that the previous one liner really described the disease and its implications.TariStar (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Baby Picture
I just cleaned up a picture file but then realized it wasn't being used anywhere. So I will insert into the article, please remove if not appropriate. laurap414 (talk) 15:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Central or Inland?
Everytime I've heard the name, it's the Inland Beardie. Is a move needed? Crimsonraptor (talk) 17:48, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

specific?
It is not very clear to me which things are specific to this species, rather than Bearded dragons as a whole.

IceDragon64 (talk) 11:24, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Exact type of bearded dragon I have?
I would like to know exactly what my dragon is not just one of the breeds like the specific type? Please 166.181.83.136 (talk) 14:09, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * We can't talk about that here because WP:TALKNO. Apologies. Invasive Spices (talk) 10 April 2022 (UTC)