Talk:Chaconne

Bach's Chaconne
I think at some point we need to separate the Bach Chaconne from the original article and link them together. Right now I don't think we have enough in the article to separate them, so I encourage everybody to participate and fill it up. I will work on it more myself later. Thanx everyone.


 * I moved the Bach Chaconne section with a few alterations into a separate article on the second partita for solo violin. There is a link from this article to the separate one.

Bach's Chaconne masterful?
"One of the best known, if not most masterful, examples of the chaconne is [Bach's]." Does this mean that Bach's chaconne is one of the most masterful, or that it isn't? There might be problems both in grammar and in semantics here....

- That sentence doesn't say anything about the masterful-ness of Bach's chaconne. It is stating that it is one of the best known, even if it might not be the most masterful. It could possibly be both, but the author did not choose to say if that was so. :)

Brahms
I've always read that Brahms "resurrected" the form with the final movement of the Haydn Variations, though the article for that says it's a passacaglia. The wording seems a bit off in this article though, especially when one considers it DID seem to spawn the use of the form from there after. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 14:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Holst's "Chaconne"
Wasn't the first movement of Holst's First Suite actually a passacaglia?, despite its name?
 * Yes, it is; I've just added a note (and reference) to that effect in the text. Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 04:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Italian name pronunciation
The pronunciation of the italian name is /tʃakˈko:na/, not /tʃakˈkɔna/, as in this italian etymologic dictionary, in the Gabrielli dictionary, in the Sabatini Coletti dictionary and in other dictionaries I checked. In italian dictionaries, the acute accent on e and o means closed prounciation. My italian userpage is Ptolemaios. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.144.75.96 (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * So, change it already. Everybody is an editor on Wikipedia.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:43, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Done.Ptolemaios--93.144.75.96 (talk) 17:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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Enhypen's song as an example?
I refer to the latest 'example' added and seek two clarifications from fellow editors:

1. Is it appropriate to list the song as an example of a chaconne (the music form), perhaps due to its ever-repeating chord progression and not just its namesake? If so, I fear that we have to qualify pop songs of a similar repetitive nature as chaconnes too.

2. Would it help to inform readers (with citation of course) that the song is lyrically inspired by the chaconne's roots as dance music?

Additionally, if the answer to Point 1 above is 'no', I suggest moving (if we agree not to delete) any mention of the song to a new section like 'Others' or 'Reference in pop music'. 明赫邑大酋 (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)