Talk:Charles Henry Wilcken

Iron Cross
Doubtful, non Mormon/non family lore citation needed. Yes, the picture shows him wearing something that resembles an Iron Cross. In which war did he earn it? The one of 1813-1815? He wasn't yet alive for that one. 1870/71? He had already "arrived in the US". 1914-1918? Or 1939-1945? These are the only years in which one could earn an Iron Cross. It was not awarded during the First_Schleswig-Holstein_War --Kar98 (talk) 22:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Utah_Historical_Quarterly is just citing family/Mormon lore. Wilcken was not in Germany for any war during which the Iron Cross was awarded. --Kar98 (talk) 05:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Who is Nuttall?
In the edit history, contributor "Collect" refers to Nuttall as an authority on Charles Henry Wilcken, but Nuttall is not cited in references for the article. SP Phil (talk) 01:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)SP Phil 8/9/12

OK, found Nuttall on Wikipedia as "Leonard John Nuttall (July 6, 1834 – February 25, 1905) was a private secretary for John Taylor, and Wilford Woodruff and was a member of the Council of Fifty who kept a detailed journal of the early history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." I have not read his entries relating to Charles Henry Wilcken yet.

SP Phil (talk) 01:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)SP Phil

Spelling of Charles Henry Wilcken's birth name
I spell Charles Henry's birth name "Karl Heinrich Wilcken" because my grandmother(nee Wilcken), neice of Charles Henry Wilcken, named my father Karl in his memory, specifically choosing the German spelling of her uncle's name--a choice which she told me was quite bold in the US in 1918. (Charles Henry Wilcken had died a few years earlier.) It is possible that his birth name exployed the Danish spelling "Carl" and that my grandmother presumed that the spelling would be German, and thus Karl. I have seen no contemporaneous birth records or census records cited to confirm the spelling. I was in Eckhorst in February 2012, which is now administratively under the larger Lubeck suburb of Stockelsdorf. At the Stockelsdorf Administrative Office I obtained contact information to send queries on records, but have not yet done so. SP Phil (talk) 02:18, 11 August 2012 (UTC) SP Phil

Now that I've looked at various census documents for Schleswig-Holstein, I see that Carl with a C is the standard usage, not Karl.
 * The danish spelling is Karl, not Carl.94.145.236.194 (talk) 17:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Date of birth
Obituary date of birth 1830 appears to be incorrect. Many other genealogical sources and apparently his grave marker in Salt Lake City give the date as 1831. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SP Phil (talk • contribs) 03:27, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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