Talk:Charles Loring Brace

The orphan train
It appears that The orphan train is an orphan article and edits seem to have stopped. All other orphan train articles and variations of the title seem to redirect here. Should the article redirect here? or the orphan train information moved out? Can someone who knows about this can pick it up?  Squids ' and ' Chips  00:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I was working on and off on Brace at the time The orphan train was created, and I guessed that Regina404 and Sokergirl were working on it as a middle-school class project, more credit to them, but as you point out they have not added anything since. I had long been considering doing an Orphan Train article, but while I was still considering, Jg2652 stepped in and did such an thorough job of covering the Orphan Train within the Brace article that a separate article seemed no longer necessary (from my perspective based on what little I could add).  If anyone else has a lot of additional information, then it might make sense to split out the Orphan Train from Brace.  Getting back to your question, yes, (unless we hear something from Regina404 or Sokergirl), it would make sense to redirect the orphaned The orphan train over here to Charles Loring Brace.  --CliffC 06:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I have redirected it.  Squids ' and ' Chips  22:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

NPOV Dispute Over Legacy Section
The quote in the "Legacy" section has less to do with Charles Loring Brace's actual legacy, in other words, what long-term effect he had on society, than it does with a broad judgment seeming to indicate that Christianity is the cause of social ills, which is not a neutral point of view.

I would like to put forth the following substitute for the quote in the "Legacy" section, which does not even mention that Charles Loring Brace was the pioneer of the foster care system in the United States.

"There were many valid criticisms of Charles Loring Brace's system of emigrating homeless and needy children from the crowded city to farms. For example, some foster parents were seeking free labor and not heirs or children.  The children frequently lost touch with their heritage, inheritance, history, and birth parents as a result of the relocation.  Some children were abused or neglected and unloved in their new homes.  However, the emigration system was the forerunner of the modern method of placing abused and neglected children in foster homes of unrelated citizens who are willing to take in a child from child protective services.

Pammalamma (talk) 23:29, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

---Outsider perspective: Currently working on something which involves the discourse of the era at the time, and this is far more helpful in understanding what he did for society and what he means today than the quote that is on the page now. CLB's actions may be Christian based and show some of the negatives of Christianity, but it should be about his legacy and not about Christianity's legacy through him.---


 * The Legacy section is unclear and poorly sourced, lacking in NPOV. I have removed most of it.Pete unseth (talk) 21:37, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

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