Talk:Charles Uncles

Claim needs verification
The entry claims: "While residing at Epiphany College, Uncles fell ill and died July 20, 1933, considering himself to be an outcast from the Society due to the racism he experienced therein. He was buried in the college's cemetery, but was exhumed in the 1970s and reburied at Calvary Cemetery in the Josephite Plot". The highlighted text, however, is not found in the source cited for it. Please, give verification for the claim!Mwidunn (talk) 21:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Conflicting information
According to the Mill Hill Missionaries website, Charles Uncles was educated at St. Peter’s Apostolic School in Liverpool, England. [] Francis Hannaway (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

American Apple Pie Story
This paragraph reads like an American Apple Pie story. It is unreferenced and sounds like an anecdote drifting into a folkloric legend.
 * During his studies at St. Hyacinthe College-Seminary in Quebec, Canada, Uncles became fluent in Latin, Greek and French. He graduated with the highest grades in his class. Returning to the US, he studied at St. Joseph Seminary in Baltimore.  He was ordained in December 1891 at the Cathedral of the Assumption by Cardinal James Gibbons.  He celebrated his first Mass on Christmas Day.

You could add to this that he liked to eat his mom's apple pie and to sit on the veranda in the rocking-chair that he made with his grand-father ... staring out at the white picket fence that made him feel that all was well with the world. If he had the highest grades - and there is still confusion about where he studied - a reference is needed to show this. The fact that he was fluent ... fluent? ... not just quite good at? French, Latin and Greek. Again - there is no evidence for this. Francis Hannaway (talk) 07:53, 8 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I do not see where the above criticism comes from: He either learned those languages or not; he either had the highest grades or not. If he did those things, then there is nothing hagiographical -- you say: "apple pie" (?) -- about any of that. Mwidunn (talk) 21:27, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Honorifics and postnominals
Due to the guidelines at MOS:HON and MOS:POSTNOM we are unable to include honorific prefixes like "Fr" and "Cardinal" and postnominals such as this in article space. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 23:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Per the honorifics policy, clergy should be styled according to the policy for each specific category. None exists for regular Catholic priests. Multiple proposals for a policy have been unsuccessful. natemup (talk) 23:53, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * In general, honorific prefixes—styles and honorifics in front of a name—in Wikipedia's own voice should not be included, but may be discussed in the article. In particular, this applies to: ... styles and honorifics related to royalty, clergy, and sainthood, such as Her Majesty, His Holiness, The Reverend, and The Venerable. Clergy should be named as described in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (clergy). Elizium23 (talk) 23:58, 14 June 2021 (UTC)


 * And since Fr Uncles is not a saint, was not referred to in the article body as a Reverend, and there exists no policy for priests on the naming conventions page, it seems clear my edit can stand.
 * I know you love to trail my edits and make obsequious (and often inaccurate) changes with no intent to improve obscure pages, but you really should give it a rest. natemup (talk) 00:06, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Clergy. He is clergy. This applies to clergy. This is a clergy honorific. "Father" means Roman Catholic clergy. Elizium23 (talk) 00:22, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Not exclusively. Doug Weller  talk 20:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)