Talk:Chestnut Ridge people

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 * According to Genealogy History & Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas, descendant. Wilmore Males son was listed in the Rev pension rolls as "Colored" at that time "Colored" meant a person who was Non-White and did not necessarily mean they were of Arfrican origin, Although Wm Maile was listed as Colored. His Father was married to Elizabeth Cockett, a "Welsh Woman" and was married at - St. James the Apostle. A small church a block away from "Dover Castle" that catered to The Barons. Later acoording to "Garrett County Gazette" an article from "The Bray Sale", Stated, "How remarketly the "Males" showed their Indian Heritage". Most of the mayle chirdlren were born in England and seems to be already of Indian heritage before arriving to America. There is no genealogical evidence that at that time the Mayles had any negro ancestry and it is common Knowledge that the Males marrid into the Norris (CHEROKEE - DELAWARE) and Harris ( CATAWBA- SAPONI) Families. To this day these families still exist and many still show there Indian Ancestry and follow their Native Culture.

While this is interesting if true, it needs to be backed up by citing a checkable source (and also to be cleaned up in terms of grammar and POV). Perodicticus 18:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree... User:Valerius Tygart 19 Oct 2006

Guineas
Edward Price believed that the term "Guinea" came from the insult term for Italians, not the Guinea Coast of Africa. Applies to these people because someone thought they looked like Italians. Mike Nassau (talk) 18:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Local acceptance of the term "Guinea"
A resident of Philippi for more than twenty years, I have known many so-called "Chestnut Ridge People." Of all that I've known, not one has ever accepted the term "guinea" as a form of self-identification. Instead, it is considered a derogatory term by most, if not all, in the community. I therefore object to the following statement in the article:

"The local pejorative term "Guinea" was still current more than a century after these words were written, and is now accepted by many in the group."

-Nelson Long Nelson long (talk) 17:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. I was born & raised in Philippi & can attest that the term has always been & remains a pejorative. 140.139.35.250 (talk) 16:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I wrote a book about the Chestnut Ridge people a number of years ago, and have added a note to it. While it is rather old, and I have not spent much time in the community since then, I have never met anyone who found the term Guinea acceptable. Thomas McElwain. We also do not accept being called male either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.71.73.240 (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

About the Dissenting view #2: Native American heritage section
Great googly moogly - will somebody with competency in the subject please rewrite that section? __209.179.22.107 (talk) 18:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Needs Reliable Sources
This article seems to rely overmuch on Original Research; that is, anecdotal and personal history accounts. Self-published family histories may be of interest to readers, but neither they nor posts by these authors on Rootsweb are accepted as Reliable Sources by Wikipedia. Thus the Mayhle 1980 family history and Rootsweb posts should be discussed in "Further reading," not used for citations as if from Reliable Sources. While there seems to be an effort to prove Native American-white ancestry for the CRP in this article, Heinegg has the most substantive research, which was recognized by an award. He can document many references to these persons being classified as "free black" or "free colored". Tax lists and records of indenture also related to whether children of a household were of mixed race with some African ancestry, especially as slavery became defined nearly as a racial caste.Parkwells (talk) 23:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Where they are now
A lot of the Mayle and Maley people moved to Canton, Ohio in search of work. There are still many of their descendants living in the northeast Canton area. 2603:6011:70D:7300:F502:757D:F799:CA29 (talk) 19:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC)