Talk:Chibchan languages

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Removed ref to Paya possibly being related to Chibchan, as it's already included under the name Pech. Mentioning that Cofan has been included due to borrowed vocabulary. kwami 02:43, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It would be really nice to list some of the features common to this group and what makes it distinct from neighbouring groups. &mdash; Hippietrail 20:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

minor grammatical correction. Idiotoff 06:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed the expression "Needless to say" from the last sentence ("Most of these indigenous languages are severely endangered and all of them require greater study and documentation"), because while it may be needless to say it, no reader should be encouraged to take this situation for granted or to view the tragedy of endangered languages as somehow "normal". I hope no one disagrees! --A R King 06:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Muisc(a) cubun?
While it is true that the name for the Chibchan family is derived from the term "Chibcha" as used for the name of the Muisca language, I'm not sure if it's worth mentioning the native name for that language specifically in this general article on the Chibchan family; it seems like it might only confuse people (as the statement could be read to prompt the question: "How is the name "Chibchan" derived from "Muisc cubun"?).

Also, I believe that indigenous name for the Muisca language itself is recorded as "muisc cubun", as the final -a of "muisca" was regularly dropped in constructions of this kind in that language. However this is an issue better taken up in the article for the Muisca/Chibcha language specifically! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlsefni (talk • contribs) 21:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops, yes, forgot to sign! Sorry! Carlsefni (talk) 13:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Kuna-Colombian
What is the latest thinking on the languages here assigned to a Kuna-Colombian branch? I have it in mind that I've seen the languages of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta put in a "Magdalenic" group with Uwa and Muisca as other branches within that group ... but is Chimila really so closely related to the languages of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta as this representation of a Kuna-Colombian would seem to imply? Or is it there simply because of the geographic proximity of the groups? Similarly, is Bari really so closely related to Muisca-Tunebo? (It is my sense that current scholarship is moving away from use of the term "Chibcha" for the Muisca language, mostly due to the confusing similarity with the name of the Chibchan family as a whole.) I'm sure I have some articles from Constenla Umaña and others that discuss these issues of affiliation; I'll have to try to dig them up .... Carlsefni (talk) 21:22, 19 March 2009 (UTC)