Talk:Children in clinical research

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I've just created this page, most of it is taken from the ADHD controversy article, it could probably do with expanding a bit, perhaps some examples of legal challenges to children being used or something....I don't have any relevant knowledge in this field, but I've tried to make it look respectable Restepc (talk) 14:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Definition of "clinical trial"
Currently, the intro (like the article on Clinical trial) contains the definition "In health care, a clinical trial is a comparison test of a medication or other medical treatment (such as a medical device), versus a placebo (inactive look-a-like), other medications or devices, or the standard medical treatment for a patient's condition."

Is this sufficiently exhaustive for a definition? I do not know enough about the subject, but the definition in the glossary of an old copy of "Good Clinical Practice for Trials on Medicinal Products in the European Community" (copyright status unknown) seems slightly broader to me (doesn't have to be versus anything). --Boson (talk) 22:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I just took the definition from the clinical trial article, if the consensus definition changes there feel free to change it here too Restepc (talk) 04:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There is a link if readers want the whole nine yards, what's there seems sufficient for understanding the article.Somedumbyankee (talk) 06:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

"commodity" issue
There needs to be an excellent secondary citation that supports the notion that children are commodities that parents sell for money in research.--scuro (talk) 02:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Massively rewrote article. The "Commodity" issue is kind of Loaded Language, but there is a real ethical concern about money being coercive.Somedumbyankee (talk) 06:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Using children?
Can the title be changed in which above phrase can be replaced with 'participation of children'. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 11:20, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Would Ethical issues with participation by children in clinical trials be good? - 2/0 (cont.) 15:48, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The simplest and most general name would be best. I propose "Children in clinical trials" or "Children in clinical research" There is also a body of literature around clinical research on incarcerated persons, the mentally disabled, economically disadvantaged persons, and more broadly vulnerable populations. Whatever title is used here will probably be a model for future articles on those populations, so I say keep the format simple and make a title which can capture a body of information.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  18:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That is much less unwieldy, good idea. Children in clinical research is a somewhat broader topic, but most of what distinguishes participation of children from general human subject research will be the ethical issues. Using the old naming convention we would call this Human subject research/children, but that is bad style these days.

Examples of certain clinical cases would improve this article. It can help people research more about specific cases, and not a general overview of it.

Requested move 14 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved as clear consensus has been established. &mdash; Music1201  talk  19:56, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Ethical problems using children in clinical trials → Children in clinical research – Change proposed by, which I would endorse. See talk page for details. Tevildo (talk) 08:33, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support I am not sure this requires an RfC at this point. I think there would be no controversy in moving it.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  12:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support Honestly, there are numerous possible titles that would serve decently well in this context, but the current one is unwieldy and is not even grammatically sound--the ethical problems are not using the children, as the present verb phrase suggests; it would need to be "ethical problems of using children in clinical trials" to be consistent with English syntax. But even then it would still be clumsy and not the most accurate description, given the breadth of the actual topic. The proposed alternative title seems serviceable and pragmatic to me.  S n o w  let's rap 00:48, 16 July 2016 (UTC)


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