Talk:Chinese immigration to Puerto Rico

Barrio Chino in PR? Chinese immigration in the 19th Century?
The narrative here seems to copy some of the elements of the excellent Chinese Cuban. However, unlike that article, this is one is total original research, it alleges the existence of a "Barrio Chino" but doesn't document it for example. The topic is certinly notable, but the article needs major cleanup. Thanks!--Cerejota 21:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cerejota is so right, and therefore on Nov. 15, 2008 I posted a complete "new Version" authored by myself and up to the standards that I have set on my other Puerto Rican immigration articles. Another thing, there is no "proof" that a "Barrio Chino" ever exsisted in San Juan or any other place in Puerto Rico for that matter, therefore, out it goes. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * AMAZING!!! Thank you sir, you a gentleman and a scholar indeed! --Cerejota (talk) 13:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Some comments
While I think the article is way better, and the work is great there are some things I want to open to discussion:


 * Use of the ROC/Kuomintang (aka Taiwan) flag: this is a very contentious issue in WikiProjects around china, and a very politicized issue, in particular with the emergence of an ethnic Taiwanese independence movement. I suggest we also use the PRC (aka Mainland China) flag also, or refrain from using flags altogether. This is to be neutral in these debates.


 * Population figures. The 2000 census is strange:

Under "one race":

Asian 7,960

Asian Indian 4,789 Filipino 394 Japanese 251 Korean 244 Vietnamese 195 Other Asian 214
 * Chinese 1,873***

Under "Race alone or in combination with one or more other races": Asian: 17,279

The 1,873 seems not to fit the personal experience of Chinese in Puerto Rico, such as their presence in schools and general culture. My guess is that the bulk of the nearly 10,000 people who identified as mixed Asian are of Chinese and Indian-Asian (we need an article on this!) heritage... By simple proportion extrapolation (not the best method I agree), there would be around 2,500 people of Chinese heritage + the 1,873 of the single race for a total of almost 4,500 people. I think this fits more into empirical observation of around ~5,000 (certainly there are more chinese than jews, and jews are around 3,000-4,000).

Thing is, this gets into dangerous OR territory... could we get a more reliable, verifiable source? Lacking population figures kills it for me in terms of QA/FA status, because that's a key bit of info on a population article such as this. Agree/disagree? --Cerejota (talk) 14:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Cerejota, thank you. Great observations!

Actions taken:

1. I have included both flags as suggested, since both at one time or another were flown in the mainland China.

2. I have eliminated the census figures, since those tend to create confusion and do not necessarily give us a truly accurate figure. In other words people tend to identify themselves with what ever group they please even if it is a misrepresentation on their behave. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Sunny Garcia
I went to Sunny Garcia's page, and went to the reference where he talks about his ethnicity, and he says this, exactly:

"On my Dad’s side, I’m pretty sure my grandparents came from Puerto Rico, their family came from Spain, so it went kinda Spain, Puerto Rico, then Hawaii. My mother’s side, my grandma’s Hawaiian/Chinese, so that was probably from the Chinese coming over. My mom’s mom is Spanish Filipino and her dad is Irish American Indian, so I’m mixed race."

From what I can tell, his Spanish ancestry is the only part of him from Puerto Rico. Doesn't anyone have any opposing reference where he says that his Chinese ancestry is from Puerto Rico? If not, he doesn't belong on this particular page. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * His grandparents came from Puerto Rico, they were Puerto Rican therefore he he has Puerto Rican ancestry and he belongs. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:20, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Moving "Chinese immigration to Puerto Rico" to "Chinese Puerto Ricans"
I have been wanting to move this page so it can be short, like other diaspora pages. I feel like having "Immigration to" on all the immigration articles for Puerto Rico makes it unnecessarily long, which is why I wish to move this and other immigration to Puerto Rico pages can be shortened to "Chinese Puerto Ricans," "Irish Puerto Ricans," "French Puerto Ricans," etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheKumquatGuy2662 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Do not move! This article and the others that you mentioned is about the "immigration" of people from other countries to Puerto Rico. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:26, 9 April 2022 (UTC)