Talk:Ching Cheong

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This article contradicts with its Chinese version. The Chinese version states Mr Ching was born in mainland China.

What is the NPOV issue here. It seems to be a pretty straightforward bio. Or is the problem what is not said? Zeimusu | (Talk page) 15:26, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Problems of this essay:

- The contents in the essay are not supported by credible sources. The neutrality of the 'external links' are questionable and the view of the PRC Govt (or pro-Beijing organizations) is not included.


 * Thanks for a detailed explaination. Let's get the Beijing position in the article. But What more needs to be said? I've mentioned the reported confession. The Standard link gives 404 and I've removed it. The other links are undoubtably biased, one I have replaced with an wiki link, the other which forms a major source for the article will have to stay.

- The sentence "In June a petition calling for his release containing over 10,000 signatures was sent to Hu Jintao, president of the People's Republic of China." Note that some people may think that the petition was calling for "a fair and open trial", not "release Mr.Ching immediately".


 * Ok I've put that in the article. I've also made the source of the petition clear.

- Some source indicate that Mr.Ching was born in HK, but some other say that he was born in mainland China.
 * I've put a comment to that effect in the article. I've also brought the home visit permit link into the body of the article.

-Many western sources say that Mr.Ching is a British National (Overseas) passport holder, without mentioning that Mr.Ching entered China on his Home Return Permit, not his BN(O) passport. The PRC Govt regards Mr.Ching as its citizen.

The western media describe Mr.Ching in this way may be misleading, giving an impression that 'A British reporter is being detained in China'. Many people does not think the statement is complete. BN(O) 05:16, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but we don't mislead in this way. The rather complex nationality of Mr.Ching is a in the article.


 * Perhaps you could review the changes I've made and comment again here, or remove the NPOV tag. Zeimusu | (Talk page) 16:28, July 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * I have made an attempt to clear up the point of view issues in this article. I believe I have dealt with the issues that BN(O) has raised, and that this article now reflects fairly the important points of view concerning the subject. As there has been no objection I will shortly remove the NPOV tag. If there are further NPOV issues, any user is of course free to fix them. If you replace the tag, please explain in detail the issues in this talk page. Zeimusu | (Talk page) 02:15, August 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * Right.. Mr Ching is a permanent resident of Hong Kong and has a BN(O) passport. He entered mainland China with his home return permit. At the same time he is a resident of Singapore, and works for a Singaporean newpspaer. &mdash; Instantnood 08:22, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

I've removed a comment on the size of the IFJ, it isn't relevant, and the information is in the IFJ article.

Draconian

 * Draconian? Since when was "draconian state secrecy laws" NPOV? Not that I disagree, mind you.

What kinda name is this for a spy? sounds like something the James Bond franchise would cook up had it been in less enlightened times.
Just look at Dr. No, Octopussy, Pussy Galore, Scaramanga, Goldfinger, Miss Moneypenney... 68.36.214.143 15:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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