Talk:Christmas 1994 nor'easter

Naming
Would "Nor'easter of Christmas 1994" or "1994 Christmas Nor'easter" be better? – Chacor 11:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally I don't see a difference. I was wondering if I should have had nor'easter capitalized in the first place.  I have personal problems with numbers leading sentences or titles (this does include all the hurricane/typhoon/tropical cyclone season articles, though I understand why it was done.)  Isn't there a grammar rule against starting titles with a number?  I'm also unaware of any encyclopedia that practices starting title names with numbers.  Thegreatdr 23:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Peer review
This is my peer review for this article.


 * Spell out primary units ("and 30 ft (9.1 m)" – "and 30 feet (9.1 m)"
 * "970 mb" – mb?

That's all for now. Looks pretty good at the moment. Gary King ( talk ) 21:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

FAC withdrawn
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Some comments on the text
I'm looking at this in response to a request from Julian. I can only comment on prose and presentation, since I have no technical knowledge. For the moment I've only looked at the lead and first section. Most of my points are minor quibbles.


 * General query on split infinitives: These are a bit of a no-no in Brit Eng – we would say, for example, "to intensify rapidly", not "to rapidly intensify". I noticed several split infinitives in the parts of the article I've read, and wonder if they are standard in Am-Eng?


 * Lead
 * Could the repetition in the first line be resolved by "The Christmas 1994 nor'easter was an intensive macro-scale cyclone..."?
 * Linking policy in lead is inconsistent. For example some states are linked, others (Florida and New York) not. "East Coast" should be linked to East Coast of the United States.
 * There is a need to distinguish more clearly between New York State and New York City. Non-Americans are often unaware that New York is a state.
 * Para 2: lose the comma after North Carolina


 * Meteorological effects
 * I see that Florida is linked on second mention
 * The initials NHC should be specifically tied to the National Hurricane Centre
 * Gulf Stream already linked
 * Second paragraph, 4th word: it is not clear what this "it" is referring to.
 * Suggest nautical miles should be linked'

That's as far as I've got for the moment. Brianboulton (talk) 00:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is the rest:-
 * Southeast United States and mid-Atlantic
 * "late on", "early on" – are the "ons" necessary?
 * Is it possible to reword to avoid the close repetition of "damaged"?
 * Suggest delete comma after Dade County. (It seems conventions about comma usage may differ on the two sides of the pond, so I have decided to avoid future comment on comma issues)
 * "Ft." strikes me as strange - why contract "Fort"? Also, if Ft must be used, it shouldn't have a stop because t is the last letter of Fort. But I'd prefer it spelled out.
 * South Carolina has been previously linked
 * Is the "alone" after Florence County necessary?
 * "60 people evacuated" should be "60 people were evacuated"
 * "While off the North Carolina coast, strong winds occurred along the coast" is rather clumsy and repetitive. I would simplify to something like: "Strong winds occurred along the North Carolina coast"
 * "...in addition to a sign". Could you specify, e.g. road sign, advertisement board, etc?
 * Maryland not linked on first mention
 * "...high winds to New York on 23 December" – specifiy this is NY city (I assume from text it is)
 * New York State has been previously linked


 * New England
 * What is runoff?
 * For the benefit of UK readers, could you link "shingles" to roof shingle, as shingle means something else here?
 * "Unofficially...." – can you indicate whose "unofficial" figures these are?
 * "although not related to the storm" – if the fire was spread by the high winds, I'd say it was related to the storm.
 * "Outside of" - "of" not necessary
 * (last line) does "washed out" mean "washed away"?


 * See also
 * Eye (cyclone) link is in text
 * Nor'easter could be linked in text - the term occurs several times.

Well, again, these are relatively small points but I hope you find them helpful. Brianboulton (talk) 18:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I've got everything. Thank you for your helpful comments, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  15:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

dubious
There is a statement in the Effects section, New England subsection saying: "...contributing to heavy runoff that washed away a 400-foot (120 m) section of Massachusetts Route 107 near Deerfield." Deerfield and Route 107 are nowhere near each other so the source cited must have an error in either the locality name or the route number. If Deerfield is correct, Route 10 is the more likely route number. If Route 107 is correct, the locality name must be wrong (Route 107 is in the northeastern suburbs of Boston). Based on where the storm had its most significant impact, I'm more inclined to say Route 107 is correct as there appeared to be no significant effects in the Springfield area. Someone should try and find what the primary source used by the cited source for this statement is. --Polaron | Talk 15:06, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Re: this change. Are we sure the Deerfield location is correct rather than the Route 107 location? The preceding sentence was talking about eastern Massachusetts but Deerfield is in western Massachusetts. --Polaron | Talk 17:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed, as the NCDC report is the only source that mentions Route 107 or Deerfield. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Florida
I added the Florida paragraph when I initially re-wrote the article, but now that I look at it, I can't confirm that the squall line was indeed related to the (forming) nor'easter. Any thoughts? – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 20:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I lived in southern Palm Beach county at the time, and all I remember is wind and heavy rainfall. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I looked at the archived weather maps, and by December 23 (when the damage in Florida was reported) the storm was well offshore. I have therefore removed that info. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Major problem
There is a serious discrepancy at the top of the article. The caption of the infobox image, employing the definite article, refers to "the pair of cyclones". Every comparable phrase in the lede refers to one single cyclone. This is very bad, yes?—DCGeist (talk) 06:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the meteorological history explains that while two separate cyclones were involved, the primary storm caused the majority of the damage. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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