Talk:Chuck E. Cheese/Archive 1

Spelling
The article is named incorrectly: the chain is called "Chuck E. Cheese's".
 * Disagree. If you look at Chuckecheese.com Corporate web site it clearly says "Chuck E. Cheese's" across the top. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertGary1 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

However, I do not know how to edit an article's name or if I even can. 65.116.19.243 19:34, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The external link to "the history of Chuck e Cheese" has several small details incorrect such as they list Richard M Frank as the President when he is the CEO and the site doesn't even mention Mike Miguziac the current President.

The section entitled "Food Service" has an error, I believe... It says food left that was prepared more than 15 'days' ago, is thrown out and remade. I'm guesing it should be 15 minutes. _______________________

POV
This article feels awfuly critical of Chuck E. Cheese's. I felt like there was a negative undertone to every section as I was reading it.
 * Agreed. Added NPOV template.--Rehcsif 03:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, I took a first crack at trying to improve the article and eliminate POV. If others agree, we can remove the NPOV template (and probably the verify sources template).  By the way, I'm not related to the company in any fashion, and don't even have a great love for the place. --Rehcsif 18:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hearing no objections after about a week, removing NPOV template that I had added. --Rehcsif 17:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Why are you upset about an article that criticizes a rat? 1028 02:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Lawsuits
I removed the following text from the page. I googled for both of these incidents and came up empty. If someone can verify this, feel free to add it back in, with proper cites:

''Like many corporations, Chuck E. Cheese has faced lawsuits throughout its history. Recently, the Orkel vs. Pizza Time Inc. Case reached national attention in the U.S. A child rode a ride where one would pedal a bicycle that would then go upward toward the ceiling. The child tried to climb down the ride and got a serious head wound in the process. His parents sued for $15 million, and settled the case out of court. Also, the show Jackass involved themselves with a Philadelphia Area Restaurant by creating a "naked slide" in which Johnny Knoxville, Bam Margera, Ryan Dunn, and an employed female model went into a slide fully clothed, but came out the bottom only in underwear. Chuck E. Cheese sued Jackass and the clip was unaired.''

--Rehcsif 18:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Good Job! I planted that there months ago to see how long it would take to be removed! FireSpike 22:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

is this allowed at wikipedia? 70.240.255.159 03:21, 10 June 2007 (UTC) i'm sorry that me above↑ Weaponbb7 03:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that kind of information is allowed, because Wikipedia is not censored. --HAL2008 talk 23:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

no is planting fake info for some one to find allowed? it could be very misleading for anyone who reads about chuck e cheese Weaponbb7 15:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it's not allowed, and it's irresponsible. I hope FireSpike was not serious, and that he didn't add sections like that to other articles. This type of thing is discussed in the guideline Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point.  Leebo  T / C  17:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
I think there may be some residual vandalism. There is a mention of the home country of the company being Russia. Robbygrine 07:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

This article could be worded better; it does not carry a formal tone.

Example: "Chuck E. Cheese's has a large selection of food items to choose from including pizza, buffalo wings, sandwiches, and salads to name a few."

-bicostp 6/20/06 7:10 PM EDT

Characters
A review of the mythology of Chuck E. Cheese. It is like McDonaldsland and there should be information on the "characters". The characters are often better than the food. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.239.121 (talk • contribs)


 * 71.134.239.121- Just to let you know I just made a page called List of Chuck E. Cheese's characters! Hope someone expands it! :) Ryan Holloway
 * Really, the characters don't need their own page. In all technicality, they have enough coverage on the main page, and most of the major characters already have their own pages. A "minor characters of Chuck E. Cheese" is what you'd be looking for, but it doesn't seem necessary. HAL2008 HAL? talk 14:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, it's not just the major 5, it's all of them, from Crusty to the Studio C Parrot! I thought it was a great idea. It had vandaisim though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan Holloway (talk • contribs) 21:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Circus Pizza
Whatever happened to Circus Pizza? There used to be a lot of them around here, but they all got replaced by the (much lamer, I think) Chuck E. Cheese's...esesezez.. however you pluralize that. Are/were they the same thing/a franchise?


 * It was Showbiz Pizza Circus i think, I'm not sure; I googled it - Ryan Holloway —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.100.214 (talk) 21:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

ShowBiz Pizza
I think that ShowBiz Pizza was different enough from Chuck E. Cheese, that it should have its own page, and not be a redirect.

I agree. Why is there no Showbiz Pizza page?


 * What are you talking about? There is a Showbiz Pizza page-

Ryan Holloway

Accuracy
Both the Chuck E. Cheese's and ShowBiz names continued to be used until 1992, when Chuck E. Cheese's Pizza became the name for all of the restaurants.

That's mostly true. But I'm good with remembering when things happen and I remember that it changed to Chuck E. Cheese's at the beginning of 1993. That may be what's implied with the current version, but I thought I should point that out.

Since Chuck E Cheese's was still largely franchised, there is no one correct date for changes that were dictated by the HQ. Especially things as large as a name change could take months, or even a year to be implemented throughout the whole chain. Showbizpage 20:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Changes
I think the page could benefit from removing the Contents tab. This seems to unnecessarily lengthen the article. Also, the voice cast section is good information, but is there any way to format it so that it took up less area?
 * The contents tab is automatic and can not be removed from an article. Also, please mark your comment with four tildes at the end. Dylanlip 00:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

"In popular culture" section
Does this article need one? I swear, I've seen more parodies of this restaurant on cartoons more than any other franchise or bussiness (except possibly Star Wars). I remember it being mentioned in a few sitcoms as well. Kochdude388 02:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Perdonen que escriba en español, es mi idioma natal; recuerdo haber visto hasta hace unos años un episodio de los Tiny Toons que parodiaban propagandas, El ratoncito equivalente de Sniffles que no recuerdo su nombre estornudaba después de cantar una canción y le tiraba todo el queso caliente a Plucky, otra parodia posiblemente sea del filme A Goofy Movie del segmento de las Zarigüeyas de Lester sin contar también en varios capítulos de Los Simpson. - Obviamente cree una cadena de restaurantes temáticos inexistente en mi comic llamada "Ratt-funnye" (r) (Sic) que por razones obvias el set publicitario no esta disponible al publico.

--GuiaMartinez 08:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused
The article states, "In 1984, Pizza Time Theatre, Inc, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and was purchased by competitor Showbiz Pizza Place, which also featured pizza, video games, and singing animatronic characters. The company then changed its name to Showbiz Pizza Time, Inc. Both the Chuck E. Cheese's and ShowBiz names continued to be used until 1992, when Chuck E. Cheese's Pizza became the name for all of the restaurants."

Okay, so were Showbiz Pizza and Chuck E. Cheese competitors or were they owned by the same group? The paragraph starts off like they're competitors, but then it talks about how they then decided to both use the same name for all the restaurants. Was Showbiz merged into Chuck E. Cheese? Were they bought out? Whatever happened needs to be stated in the article, or it won't make any sense to talk about how they were "competitors" and the next sentence talk about how "Chuck E. Cheese became the name for all the restaurants". That's like saying Coke and Pepsi fought a bitter war until Pepsi became the name for all Coke and Pepsi drinks. Celedor15 13:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Your quote above states exactly what happened: Pizza Time Theater, Inc (who operated CEC's) folded, and was ought by Showbiz.  So they started as competitors but became one company.  The quote seems clear to me...  --Rehcsif 14:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, so Chuck E. Cheese went bankrupt and was bought out by Show Biz Pizza, and Show Biz then changed all their restaurants to Chuck E. Cheeses, right? That's weird. But, that's business I guess. Okay, I guess the article is okay. Celedor15 00:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Cingular and AT&T just did pretty much the same thing...

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Parodies
Do we need to list ALL the parodies here? It seems kinda irrelevant. ~Crowstar~ 20:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, from Spongebob, it list one parody as "Bunny Bun's." I've seen every episode. There's no mention of this. ~Crowstar~ 20:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, and thank you for bringing that to my attention. Unfortunately (as per the protection template) the page has been protected, as it has been receiving a LOT of vandalism, and thanks for brining that to my attention, as it possibly is vandalism. Feel free to prune out a few of the parodies, it is irrelevant, I've just been concentrating on vandalism prevention and repair on this page right now, but I was planning on looking into that a bit later. Thanks for reporting that, I'm removing it now! --HAL2008 talk 21:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Birthday Song expansion:
Hey, due to repeated vandalism, I was unable to figure out most of the information regarding the birthday song (like lyrics and such) after removing the vandalism, if anyone could fix that, I would really appreciate it. --HAL2008 talk 23:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

It's something like this: Chuck E. Cheese: We say "happy" you say "birthday" Chuck E. Cheese: Happy! audience: Birthday! Chuck E. Cheese: Happy! audience: Birthday! Chuck E. Cheese: Clap your hands! audience claps Chuck E. Cheese: Stomp your feet! audience stomps their feet chorus: You're a birthday star at Chuck E Cheese. You're a special guest we all aim to please. Your a big time superstar going far. Here's to you our birthday star...

maybe some other people can fill in more of what they remember until we can put it back on the article page. --Macrowiz 03:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

i actually work at a Chuck E Cheese's store in St. Louis and know the song pretty good. everything is pretty accurate, except our party hostesses instruct the kids to hit the table 3 times instead of stomping their feet 3 times. not sure if every store does this, but this accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griff030 (talk • contribs) 08:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

After second round of stomping: Jasper: Party's started, and everybody's here to wish you well. Won't be long now 'til you're all grown up... All: But let's not think ahead that far! Here's to you, our Birthday Star! Third round of clapping and stomping, Announcer: All right everybody, get on your feet! Chuck E.'s got something special just for you! Musical interlude, Chuck E.: Okay! Let's sing happy birthday! 1,2,3! All: Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday from Chuck. E! Happy Birthday to you! (Somewhere between the announcer and here is some dialogue between the characters about blowing out the candles; I don't know the specific words.) Repeat chorus, Fourth round of clapping and stomping, All: Happy birthday from Chuck E! Happy birthday to you!

As a party hostess, I hear this song very, very often. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.135.1 (talk) 01:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

this article is a nightmare
As I'm cleaning up, I'll be deleting a lot of the unnecessary bulk...this thing makes up over 8 pages in Word! So it's going to be gibberish for awhile. Let me know if I delete anything you think ought to stay. --130.63.128.248 15:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this is one of the worst articles I've ever seen on Wikipedia. I've already put out a notice begging people for help at WP:CLEANUP. Please do fix it up. The Evil Spartan 16:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll help, too. It'll take a while. I put on inuse for now. Just replace with underconstruction when you're done for the day. -- Flyguy649 talk contribs 17:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have to agree as well... I've been attempting to work with the article, though I'm going on a wikibreak now, but when I'm back, hopefully it'll be better. The sheer amounts of vandalism when I first came across the article, stuff that had been there for ridiculous amounts of time, had to be corrected. Even then, the article was a mess. Thanks to everyone who's been attempting to fix the article. --HAL2008 talk Contributions 18:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It turns out the original History section was a copyvio. User:Chairboy found the page. It shouldn't be a problem now. Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yoko
Yoko is a cat character who will have a stage with Munch, Showbiz Pizza Place's Mitzi, and The Birthday spider. This character is still in development, and is from Timothy Goes To School. can anyone put a sources on Yoko character it sounds odd to put a character like that into a band. is this some Yoko Ono reference?
 * That was false. It made no sense, because Munch is not a part of the RAE, which is not in SPP's or CEC's anymore, plus, there was no reference to this. I think it was vandalism 68.111.100.214 01:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, can you do me a favor really quick? Unfortunately the birthday song lyrics seem... kinda long, and a bit useless to the article. They're also unsourced at the moment. I haven't gotten rid of them, but just hidden them. If you could just fix them up, or if someone else could make the decision on whether they should be here or not (because honestly I can't say for sure) then please do so. -- HAL2008 HAL? talk 14:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Character Voices
Alot of these are incorrect. Chris Sabat and Georgia Denney only provided voices for Munch and Helen (respectively) in Chuck E. Cheese in the Galaxy 5000. Also, Tress MacNeile never did Helen's voice. I honestly can't get to the edit article page (it gets all flubby on me), but if someone wants to change this information, it'd probably help the article quite a bit.

Condensing Article
I'm currently trying to improve this article. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. I would like to trim down the two largest sections, Animated Characters and Company History, but I'm having trouble there. Showbizpage 16:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Character Voices (cont'd)
The character voices are wrong. Plus, the debut years for the characters are wrong. Munch debuted in 1978 when he replaced Crusty the Cat. Plus, Helen also debuted in 1978 when Munch was added to add a Female voice. However, she was dropped as a character until she came back as Broadway Helen as a guest character. Dylanlip (talk) 13:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Logos
I think it would be nice to include a small logos section, like this:

Since the store opened in 1977, Chuck E. Cheese's has undergone many logo changes for the past 30 years. Here is a list of them:
 * The very first logo had a uniqe shape and a small cirle at the top with Chuck E.'s face in it. it also said Chuck E. Cheese's. The bottom part had Pizza Time Theatre written on it.
 * The 2nd logo was introduced in 1980... etc etc etc

And so forth! Ryan Holloway 21:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Nicknames
I've seen the place referred to by the following nicknames.

Chucky's Chucky Cheese

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Construction
Hello. I've noticed that the article is in a horrible shape for a while, and I plan to redo it over the next month or two. I will update again soon.  Dyla nlip  (talk) 16:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
After reading much of this article, I can see it has been vandalized quite heavily. (ie.e, some of CEC's motto's being "Be Cool, Eat Your Stool!" and "Moms Like It That Way"?) I don't have the time right now to fix everything, but wanted to make the vandalism known so someone could. Thanks. Schmendrick (talk) 20:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Is Chuck a rat or a mouse?
The opening of the article calls him an "anthromorphic rat." The characters section, however, says he is a mouse. So which one is he? Lord Of Demise (talk) 01:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Originally he was a rat(as designed by the founder) but in 1997 the company announced he was a mouse. There is a good reference at http://www..com/article/426707/little_known_facts_about_chuck_e_cheeses.html (is associatedcontent) but the site is banned by WIkipedia so I found another (although less detailed) reference. --RobertGary1 (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Health concerns
I've removed 3 claims that weren't substantiated:

1. The article does not say they were "dangerously" contaminated. They were contaminated, as lots of restaurants and public spaces are, but it's not said the contamination was at a dangerous level.

2. The article says a "our co-worker claimed to have gotten ringworm from Chuck E. Cheese's" does not mean that they actually did get ringworm from there.

3. The expert in the article says "But as a doctor, I haven't ever seen a serious or life-threatening infection that can be clearly traced back to a kid-friendly restaurant. So take this all with a grain of salt." She does not say, she "[considers] Chuck E. Cheese's an unsanitary environment and [recommends] that parents not take their children there. "

Source here: .Lord of the Ping (talk) 06:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Alcohol is not intersting
Is the fact that one single store was asked to give up its alcohol license intersting (especially for being an entire section)? Its like saying my Chevette broke down in the Chevrolet article; just seems petty to put in an article. What do people think about removing it? --RobertGary1 (talk) 17:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Removed. Be_bold. The article doesn't say how many restaurants serve alcohol, but even if 1/5 of its 524 locations did it'd still be less than 1%. There's no indication that this is a chain wide issue. Also, this did not receive national coverage and enter into the popular conscience. If there are future incidents and a pattern develops, then this section should be reinstated. But Wikipedia doesn't create sections for every idiosyncrasy of every restaurant of large chains like Chuck E Cheese and McDonalds.--Lord of the Ping (talk) 18:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup
All today I've been working on the article. I've done a HUGE job of adding large amounts of references, including third-party sources. By the end of today I hope to have nearly every sentence referenced in the article. I've also removed much fancruft, vandalism, and I've also fixed many mistakes. If you see anything (major) that could be fixed, please tell me. I hope to get this article to at least a B, possibly GA. ''' Dyla nlip (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. I've finished work on the article, and I will now submit it for assessment. I've finished adding references, adding a source for every single piece of information in this article, and raising the number of references from 7 to 33. ''' Dyla nlip (talk) 01:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)