Talk:Cleo Odzer

AIDS claim
In what way does the supplied reference document that Odzer's doctor said that she had AIDS? Nicmart (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Aside from "(1950--2001)" I don't see any mention of her death, let alone what she died from, in the material about Odzer on pages 83 and 84 of the book cited. Without valid citation or attribution, I think the assertion that she died from AIDS should be removed. --Embram (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC) Update: I found the correct citation (it was on page 86, not on page 83 as previously cited) and supplied it. A friend of hers has said that Odzer had told her she had tested HIV-positive, but as this is not currently verifiable by Wikipedia standards I didn't add it. --Embram (talk) 20:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Is a phone call a proper reference?
I'm curious to know if Wikipedia permits a phone call by a contributor as a valid reference, such as appears with this article. I've sometimes wanted to include first-hand correspondence with article subjects, but assumed it was not permitted. Nicmart (talk) 05:23, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

References aside ..
It appears that there is a lack of proper reference for the matter related to the circumstances during her final days. Does it really matter "how" she died?. I'd say, let's present that infomation as a possibility ( the HIV thing) keeping in mind her views about life and death and the very reason we are building this article on her. Certain topics require a balance of rationality, correctness of infomation and the "emotion" attributed to the "topic". Always remember wikipedia is primarily an "emotion" :) Leningrad (talk) 08:31, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Classification as a "Jewish writer"
Someone recently added Odzer to the "Jewish American writers" and "Jewish women writers" classifications (while arbitrarily removing her from the "American writers" category, as though a Jewish writer cannot be an American writer. Note: I restored her to the "American writers" category.) But on what basis can she be termed a "Jewish writer"? She was adopted, and though her adoptive parents were ethnic Jews there's no record of Cleo's (Sheila's) having converted to Judaism or having had a Jewish upbringing, there's no record of her having received any kind of Jewish education, and her writing does not concern any particularly Jewish topic or subject matter. - Embram (talk) 20:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * She was adopted? Source? One of the references for this entry is apparently a birth notice, which seems unlikely for an adopted child. Nicmart (talk) 00:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Poorly sourced
Much of this is unsourced. Is there any proof, for instance, that Odzer obtained a doctorate in anthropology? Nicmart (talk) 01:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Her dissertation is linked in the references. AxelBoldt (talk) 20:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)