Talk:Clifton Williams

Died at the controls but ejected?
"Williams died at the controls of his T-38 jet trainer near Tallahassee, Florida on October 5, 1967. His plane went into an uncontrollable aileron roll while he was flying from Cape Canaveral to Mobile, Alabama, en route to see his father who was dying of cancer.[3] Williams ejected but the plane was traveling too fast at too low an altitude for the seat to land safely" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.189.196 (talk) 23:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Astronaut wings on the moon?
I remove the sentence about his astronaut wings being on the moon, since I was unable to find a source. Chaikin's book, page 263 says that Bean threw his own Astronaut wings into the Surveyor crater during Apollo 12, but doesn't mention Williams' wings. Mlm42 (talk) 19:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's certainly a moving story- also stated in the Apollo 12 article- but it seems pretty difficult to find even mentions on the internet predating this wiki article. 125.237.67.243 (talk) 07:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out; I've now removed it from the Apollo 12 article as well. Mlm42 (talk) 18:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I know this is almost 4 years stale, and maybe the wings-on-the-moon thing isn't worth mentioning, even if true, but Colin Burgess mentions it in his 2003 book Fallen Astronauts: As a mark of respect, they [the Apollo 12 crew members] also placed Williams's' aviator's "wings of gold" in the lunar soil." (the link is to the Google books ebook; the ISBN & OCLC number are for the print book). Burgess is a pretty well-respected space author. TJRC (talk) 21:29, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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Additional references

 * Initial thoughts was lack of oxygen

Placing these here for now.  Kees08  (Talk)   04:03, 11 March 2019 (UTC)