Talk:Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata

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We might have to write a separate article on the crisis as it unfolds, because the crisis section is growing to be larger than the rest of the article...

Some Gimnasia fans who are not ashamed of who they are: Somo la 22 (Swahili)

Excellent
Yeah. NPOV... elpincha 03:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you for a restoration+shortening of the deleted crisis text? --Mariano (t/c) 11:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * An article on GELP without any reference to the very deep crisis Gimnasia is in right now (Colo Colo, player exodus, 7-0, the strange second half v. Boca, the threats, Defensor, Santos, Palermo x4) is kinda unrealistic. But it seems some guys need to deny reality in order to survive, so I don't know...


 * Oh darn it. Yes. elpincha 12:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps some of it, specially regarding the Muñoz incident, could be placed at Muñoz's page instead. --Mariano (t/c) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Lede
I like the new lede (Jun 30, 2007) very much, far better than the old one that mentioned the basketball team. It deprives Gimnasia of a mention to their only championships, and shows the level of English skills that one can expect from triperos. elpincha 14:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

About the citation need
In the part of Volleyball, its required a citation. I found the information in the official site of GELP, but i don't know how to make the citation or reference, and the page it doesn't have a direct link. So you can find the info needed in the official site of GELP, in the part of history, Volleyball (Historia, Vóley).


 * If you put the website address in here it can be added to the article for you. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 01:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I found a third party source in English so added that. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 02:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

http://dbscripts.metrovoley.org.ar/fmv2007/site/Home/main.php?target=Institucional In this link it says that Gimnasia was one of the nine clubs that were members of the federation. It's also the official site of the Volleyball Federation, but it's in spanish.

Revision and new links
I believe the "crisis" section has grown out of proportion for this page. There is already a linked section on "History of Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata", as well as a "Muñoz" page, to discuss these topics in more detail. There are other interesting things that could be included in this page, which were also "crisis" in their time, e.g. the one leading to the so-called "Arriba Gimnasia" movement. I suggest we bring some balance to this page, or provide some "trivia" at the end. Encyclopedic entries about football teams should not be bloated by minutia which happen to be fresher in people's memories. I do not want to start a silly Gimnasia/Estudiantes argument in doing these revisions, but it's evident from the discussion page that rivalry is tainting the content of this entry. I would like to get some input on this before doing any further revisions. Nordisk Varg Nordisk varg (talk) 20:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest rewriting the "Recent crisis" section to bring it in line with the version in Spanish of this page, which is, in my view, much better focused. Please, have a look at that section and let me know if you agree. Nordisk varg (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * About the last question: maybe formatting, but the information should remain. The Spanish language article ignores the recent crisis completely. What we have here is a club that disgraced Argentine football with actions so foul that they do deserve a mention. The fact that their rivals won the tournament on top of Gimnasia's egregious match-fixing is worthy of mention. elpincha (talk) 11:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree of the fact of mention the crisis, but its not worthy of mention at all, that Estudiantes won the tournament. It's Gimnasia's Article, not Estudiantes's. If you want to put it on the Estudiantes's article that would be fine, but not in ours. We are not hiding anything, the thing is that there is an article about Gimnasia's History, so we should not repeat more than once the same things, and in Gimnasia's article there are also links to estudiantes and the tournament that estudiantes won. I think that we should get translate the spanish version, wich is a "good article", and then thinking in what we can add to it.--Tincho gelp (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You know what? I agree. Do you think second-place finishes should be mentioned in so many different places? (I do, but for all the wrong reasons :-)


 * Please provide some input and I'll try to make the article better within my limited powers.elpincha (talk) 15:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Shield
Is there any posibility of finding images of the old shields to ilustrate the changes? I think the minor changes in the inscription occurred at the same time that the blue frame changed, extending from inside the circle wich enclosures the inscription to outside, and then reverting to just the interior of the circle, like actually. Hasn't the helmet changed also? And I thought the first shield mentioned in the article (if it is the one I'm thinking) was never really used as such, it remained just as a primary design. Could anyone give some orientation on this points? Excellent article, anyway. Thanks a lot. Ipsumesse (talk) 17:58, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata (sports club) be merged into Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata. It is the result of an improper cut-and-paste operation done long ago. The two pages have been separately edited for years, and so will require a lot of judicious editing to combine them. Chris the speller yack  20:29, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The proposal makes sense. The rationale for the split (back in the day &mdash; when a length of 64K would prompt warnings) was to provide separate articles for the sports club and the football side so that the other disciplines got adequate space. With the 64K issue gone for good, maybe the time has come for a merge. elpincha (talk) 16:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with your suggestion. Fma12 (talk) 22:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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General club or Football club?
Most European multi clubs have split articles for every sport. Is weird for a reader who find a link in a men's or women's volleyball player to be taken to the same article about a men's football team, that has a little section about "other sports". --Osplace 14:58, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

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