Talk:Coat of arms of Bosnia and Herzegovina

Is it known who designed the socialist flag and arms and who was responsible for the re-invention/revival of the fleur-the-lis arms and flag?--80.57.69.150 11:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Fojnički grbovnik - 19. century?
Of course it's not true that coat of arms from Fojnički grbocnik comes from 19. century. It comes from 14. century and that symbol is found medieval monuments in Bosnia and Croatia also.--78.3.11.166 13:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Some information can be found at Coats of arms of the Yugoslav Socialist Republics
Especially with regards to the descriptions, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.201.206.238 (talk) 01:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The image [[File:|x20px]] is based of an the painting from the Fojnica armorial, which may be seen here Bosnien och Hercegovina gammalt statsvapen (1800-talet.png. The image you provided Coat of arms of the legitimate Kingdom of Bosnia.png is neither contemporary nor is it an accurate reproduction of the Fojnica armorial.  I replaced the original armorial image only because it was cropped poorly, it is hard to make out the details such as the Moores' heads and because the colours no longer represent their original intent, thus making for a poor image overall.   [tk]   XANDERLIPTAK  12:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Alexander, you have made a nice attempt at reproduction of the Fojnica armorial, but your file (attempt) did not respect the coat of arms of Bosnae in the Fojnica armorial. The Moores' heads in the Fojnica armorial are black, as well as the crowns, they are smaller. I expect that you are very well aware that the coat of arms pretty much doesn't exist if there is no blason (textual description) of the depiction (the picture of the coat of arms). The image which I supplied doesn't need to be a current version, and it is desirable that it is not a nowdays depiction. The depiction is contemporary because the Bosnian kingdom never used that coat of arms but the personal arms of King Tvrtko (this is the prefered version of the story). Bosnian Kingdom was then (before the Ottomans) a feudal kingdom in which nobles had a coat of arms and we do not exactly know what was the CoA of Bosnian Kingdom, and we cannot know if it even existed.
 * Fojnica armorial is definitely earlier in its creation. For instance Coat of arms of the Serbian Empire of Emperor Dushan, according to the Illyrian armorials is derrived from the Fojnica armorial.
 * 89.201.215.112 (talk) 21:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The depiction is to represent Fojnica armorial, not a Dutch map representation 300 years later. The armorial predates King Tvrtko I.  Also, coats of arms existed long before blazons and the size of the crowns do not matter, so saying that the original version had them smaller is a meaningless point.  For one that argued over the crowns being a bit taller, you sure want to ignore bigger discrepancies.  Lets go over differences that matter, then.  The original uses an ancient crown, while the Dutch a ducal coronet.  That is a major difference.  The original uses a saltire couped embatteled counter embattled, while the Dutch only has the saltire embattled.  The star on the inescutcheon is to be white, no gold as shown on the Dutch version.  Another thing, the Dutch version is not contemporary.  Contemporary means made at the time, and 300 years after is not the same time period.  Also, I am not certain why you changed the Austro-Hungarian arms for Bosnia, but the one that was up was superior both artistically and was more complete.   [tk]   XANDERLIPTAK  22:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Pogonia
I wonder if the two are related? --Sobiepan (talk) 22:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)