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hello guys i had a question about the cocoa bean. it's for a school project. does man have a piece for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.238.107.170 (talk) 12:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Studies
Results: One third of the men did not use cocoa at baseline. The median cocoa intake among users was 2.11 g/d. After adjustment, the mean systolic blood pressure in the highest tertile of cocoa intake was 3.7 mm Hg lower (95% confidence interval [CI], −7.1 to −0.3 mm Hg; P = .03 for trend) and the mean diastolic blood pressure was 2.1 mm Hg lower (95% CI, −4.0 to −0.2 mm Hg; P = .03 for trend) compared with the lowest tertile. During follow-up, 314 men died, 152 of cardiovascular diseases. Compared with the lowest tertile of cocoa intake, the adjusted relative risk for men in the highest tertile was 0.50 (95% CI, 0.32-0.78; P = .004 for trend) for cardiovascular mortality and 0.53 (95% CI, 0.39-0.72; P < .001) for all-cause mortality.

Because the study was removed from the article, want to preserve it here. Bod (talk) 21:26, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * , thank you for doing so :). By chance, are you able to make sense of it? Because I sure as hell can't..a brief summary in layman's terms of its conclusions left here along with it in the record would be a good thing to have, I think. 2600:1702:4960:1DE0:E188:AB34:F849:5200 (talk) 10:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You're replying to a three-and-one-half-year-old post, by an editor who has been blocked almost that long. I wouldn't expect any further response from Bod. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 13:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Why is the content about child/slave labour being deleted?
I had added fully-cited content from Fortune (magazine) about the fact that harvesting of cocoa in West Africa is being done by child/slave labour.

That has been deleted without any reason being given.

I cannot do another Revert because that would be edit warring. But I do object to the tactic being used and hope that other editors will agree that the content is valid. See below:

Peter K Burian (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * With unformatted text and source template, you are making a mess of the section and the reference format; Please slow down and see this edit from the Chocolate article, and go from there. --Zefr (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, Zefr; as per your suggestion, I have added a short version of the text, with correct formatting of the citation.(Child Slavery - Attempt at Reform section). Hopefully, this will resolve the issue.

Peter K Burian (talk) 17:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Criollo
Hello Are these  really two different cultivars? Invasive Spices (talk) 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Cacao Fino de Aroma
The research article Geographic and Genetic Population Differentiation of the Amazonian Chocolate Tree (Theobroma cacao L) by Juan C. Motamayor, published 2008 October 1, defines ten genetic clusters of cacao. That number has since been expanded to eleven.

Below is a complete list of all eleven genetic clusters of cacao, according to the USDA-ARS and Motamayor classification system.
 * Nacional
 * Criollo
 * Amelonado
 * Boliviano
 * Contamana aka Ucayali/Scavina
 * Curaray
 * Guiana
 * Iquitos aka Iquitos Mixed Calabacillo (IMC)
 * Marañon aka Parinari
 * Nanay
 * Purús

As discussed in a 2020 December 16 Uncommon Cacao blog, "Forastero" was originally used to refer to non-Criollo beans and "Trinitario" referred to a Criollo and forastero hybrid.

As indicated in the following quotes from South American chocolate producers, in the region where Criollo and Nacional cacao is produced, it is often referred to as Fino de Aroma (or Fine Aroma in English translation).

"The two most coveted cacao varieties in the world are Nacional and Criollo. Nacional hails from Ecuador, while Criollo is primarily found in Venezuela. Nacional and Criollo are prized among chocolate makers throughout the world for two important reasons: they are extremely rare and their flavor profiles are considered the most desirable. But Nacional and Criollo are just as different from each other as Nebbiolo and Merlot in terms of their history, growing conditions, and especially their flavor profiles."

"The Fino de Aroma denomination is an International Cocoa Organization (ICCO)* classification, which describes an exquisite aroma and flavour." "Only around 8% of the cocoa produced in the entire world is Cacao Fino de Aroma. 76% of Cacao Fino de Aroma produced in the world is grown in Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela and Peru."

"There are 3 main cultivar groups of Cacao beans grown today: Forastero, Trinitario, and Nacional. Nacional is a Criollo Cacao grown from ancient heirloom beans, and is the rarest of the three because the trees are especially difficult to grow.  Chocolate made from Criollo Nacional Fino de Aroma Cacao beans has a delicate, complex array of flavors.  The “King of Cacao", Criollo Nacional Fino de Aroma is highly prized and is used in Cacao Ceremony, and by the world's finest Bean-to-Bar micro chocolate makers." Penelope Gordon (talk) 06:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The Motamayor et al., 2008 URL is incorrect and, by itself, doesn't look important. "Why are we suddenly talking about one person and his research in this article?" I suggest using this instead:
 * Invasive Spices (talk) 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Invasive Spices (talk) 12 April 2022 (UTC)

pyrenoids? Or pyrethrum or pyrethroids?
In the section on "Cocoa trading", there is mention of pyrenoids, presumably as insecticides. This appears to be a typo and needs to be corrected. I do know what the original writer had in mind, but I propose either pyrethrum, which is mentioned in the reference by Finkelman et al. at the end of the same sentence or pyrethroids which sounds more similar to pyrenoids. kupirijo (talk) 11:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)