Talk:Comhairle nan Eilean Siar

Flag
Anyone know if the actual flag has portholes on the ships to match the logo and coat of arms? └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 04:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the logo. Sorry - it's a while since I last saw the flag, and I can't remember whether it has portholes on it or not.  Hopefully someone over there will be able to help.  C. Macleod 05:04, 2nd Sept. 2006 (UTC)

Disinformation
The article says: "Western Isles Council was retracted in 1997 under the Local Government (Gaelic Names) (Scotland) Act 1997, meaning that the former Western Isles are now officially named Na h-Eileanan Siar, even in English-language contexts."

But the council itself, on its own web page, has enough common sense to not completely hide themselves away in oblivion. Their own page title as listed on their main page at http://www.cne-siar.gov.uk/ as you can see by looking at the top of your browser when you go there, is Comhairle nan Eilean Siar - Western Isles Council.

That's today: 2007, not pre-1997. Gene Nygaard (talk) 14:09, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And as of 2014, it isn't. 86.138.210.236 (talk) 21:55, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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Language
The article claims "the former Western Isles are now officially named Na h-Eileanan Siar, even in English-language contexts." It seems absurd to me to claim that the name of something in one language can be imposed into another. For example, Germany is known as Deutschland in German. The article is suggesting the equivalent that the country could somehow be "renamed" to Deutschland in English. You can't change the name of things in specific languages by making a declaration! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.188.208.240 (talk) 13:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * "Officially named". The UK Government has decided that the council has the right to decide what language its official name is in, and the council has decided that its official name is in Gaelic. This doesn't prevent people calling it Western Isles, of course, but if people were to call me "Beloved" on the grounds that they're not speaking Hebrew, that wouldn't stop my name being David. 86.138.210.236 (talk) 21:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Electoral System
"This system has proved to be very unpopular with the electorate (at local and national level) leading to confusion as to which of three or four of the councillors truly represents a ward.[citation needed]"

I reckon this should probably be removed - it's irrelevant and there's no source - but the page seems to be protected as I can only see a view source link. Can somebody do this? 86.159.227.18 (talk) 22:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Have done so Mr Weeble  Talk Brit tv 13:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Gaelic name of Council, IPA
The article begins "Comhairle nan Eilean Siar (Scottish Gaelic: Comhairle Na h-Eileanan Siar, IPA: [ˈkoːrʎə nə ˈhelanən ˈʃiəɾ])..." The Gaelic version and the IPA given are gramatically incorrect. The name which is officially used in English by the Council is the Scottish Gaelic form "Comhairle nan Eilean Siar," (where else would the name have come from -- it's certainly not English!) so it's a bit odd that someone has put in an incorrect Gaelic version in the brackets. To spell it out, what we have here are not an English and a Gaelic version of the Council's name, but two Gaelic versions, one correct and one incorrect. When the Council was formed, one of the first items on the agenda was a debate about whether the correct Gaelic form of its name was "Comhairle nan Eilean" or "Comhairle na h-Eileanan." (The "Siar," meaning "West," was not part of the Council's name at the time.) The gramatically correct definite article for the genitive plural in this case is in fact "nan," and the genitive plural of "eilean" is simply "eilean," which is what the Council went with. I have changed it, but I'm not sure about the IPA, so someone else should check that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.18.104.133 (talk) 08:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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