Talk:Common kestrel

Windfucker?
In the 1600s, before the word was considered vulgar, the kestrel was referred to as the "windfucker"."

There is no citation, and when I googled it, the only relevant results I could find seemed to be taken from this article. I smell a prank. If anyone can find valid evidence that this is true, feel free to put it back. Armblast 22:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * A search for "windfucker kestrel" produced, inter alia the following
 * ''windfucker
 * Obs.


 * 1. A name for the kestrel: cf. WINDHOVER.


 * 1599 NASHE Lenten Stuffe 49 The kistrilles or windfuckers that filling themselues with winde, fly against the winde euermore.


 * 2. fig. as a term of opprobrium.


 * 1602 Narcissus MS. Rawl. Poet. 212, lf. 80, I tell you, my little windfuckers, had not a certaine melancholye ingendred with a nippinge dolour overshadowed the sunne shine of my mirthe, I had beene I pre, sequor, one of your consorte. 1609 B. JONSON Silent Wom. I. iv. (1620) C3b, Did you euer heare such a Wind-fucker, as this? c1611 CHAPMAN Iliad Pref. A4, There is a certaine enuious Windfucker, that houers vp and downe, laboriously ingrossing al the air with his luxurious ambition. a1616 BEAUM. & FL. Wit without M. IV. i, Husbands for Whores and Bawdes, away you wind-suckers [sic ed. 1639].


 * The dates make it clear that it became a "term of opprobrium" very quickly.
 * It's certainly not a prank, but needs modifying, jimfbleak 05:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks legit: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=windfucker&searchmode=none 58.107.225.241 (talk) 00:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


 * In Greece Red Footed falcons and to a lesser extent other Falcons are locally called Αερογάμηδες (translating to windfuckers or wind-married). So it doesn't seem so far fetched.


 * Note that the BBC relesed a documentary on 12 July 2011 (Debating Animals - Series 2: The Kestrel and Red Kite, presenter Rod Liddle) where the Kestrel is again described as having been called a wind fucker (and also a wind hover) in the Middle Ages http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00yz3t2/Debating_Animals_Series_2_The_Kestrel_and_Red_Kite/ Cymbou (talk) 01:26, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Image of male kestrel?
On the right hand side of the page there are three photos of kestrels. I do not think that the middle image captioned "Male F. tinnunculus" is a male kestrel.

The falcon does not have the characteristic blue grey head of the male kestrel. Also the brown of the wings is much darker than I believe a male kestrel's would be. The breast of the falcon in the image is cream with brown spots while that of the male kestrel is a brown breast with black dots.

I think this image is of a Saker Falcon not a male Common Kestrel

This is a link to an image of a saker falcon

This is a link to an image of a common kestrel

Could someone please change the image or remove it.

Thank you

DarlAle —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarlAle (talk • contribs) 13:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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Common Kestrel- Santa Cruz CA.
Common kestrel, we have had them for the last few years in Santa Cruz, there a couple that breeze over head often. I believe year round they have stayed. 🙏🏻🙏🏼🙏🏽 2601:647:CD01:1CC0:0:0:0:276A (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2022 (UTC)