Talk:Compactor

Inappropriate nickname
I find the term Paddy's motorbike to be highly inappropriate. Paddy is a slightly derrogatory appelation for the Irish. The motorbike is a cruel joke on the fact that the hand plate compactor is as close as a Paddy is going to get to a motorbike with a slight inference that he is too stupid to know the difference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.184.76 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 3 February 2009


 * I never took it that way. AllExperts.com says,  'The idiom is that the operator appears to "ride" the hammer and hold onto the handles much like a motorcycle.' It seems to be an established nickname, notable enough to stay in the article.


 * I think you are suggesting that it should be removed on the grounds that it is offensive. The most relevant Wikipedia policy I can find is Words to avoid: this includes 'words or expressions that are derogatory or offensive'. However, I think that policy is about using words as part of a sentence that could be worded in another way. In this case, the encyclopedia is stating nicknames of construction equipment. It seems to me that this is valid encyclopedic content, and should remain.


 * Is this acceptable? - Fayenatic (talk) 20:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Commercial Waste Compactors
The compactor boxes come in a variety of sizes including 20, 30, 35, 40 Cubic Yards. There are at least two additional types, a self-contained box and non-self-contained box. The difference is that the self-contained box includes the compacting ram which crushes/compresses the material disposed of.

These compactors are serviced in two different ways. The first is a schedule basis, say two times a week. With a schedule you almost never have a full container. The problem with this method is that the hauler will empty the container whether it has 2 tons or 8 tons of material. Thus you pay the same for each haul no matter how much is in the container. Of course the disposal weight is billed separately based on the the container weight. The second method is on-demand. In this case there are two distinct and different on-demand methods. The first and most common is that a staff member at the company who uses the compactor or at a service company, monitors the pressure on the ram as it is being used. Once the pressure rises above a specific point, the monitoring staff member makes the decision to empty the container, then calls the hauler and request a pickup. That same staff member is also responsible for follow-up in making sure the container is emptied on-time. The second on-demand method is based on the use of monitoring device and information system.

With the two major monitoring implementations, a monitoring device is placed at the compactor site. Specific sensors and monitoring computers are used to watch the compactor pressure and run-information. When the compactor is near full the monitor will send a message to either a staffed monitoring site (in the case of the first implementation) or directly to the hauler, in the case of second implementation. The follow-up using the first implementation system must be provided by the end-customer using the compactor & monitor or their service company. In the case of second implementation, all follow-up is handled by the service company. There are a few other waste brokers who have their own monitoring systems including the number-one waste company in the US. The problem with any hauler monitoring their own compactors is the same problem with writing your own evaluation, but I will leave that to your choice. In both cases sited above, there are significant differences in their cost and methodology used. The second implementation has the most recent technology and patent, while the first implementation offers a few other services which most compactor owners would not use. Search using Compactor Monitor or Compactor Sentry for more information.

The bottom line to servicing your compactor is you should use a monitor because waste does not show up on a schedule and employees or broker supervisors cannot be on-top of when your compactor is truly near full or not full enough. Only a monitor can notify a compactor supervisor or the hauler within seconds of the near full condition. It is the only device that will do it repeatedly at exactly the right time. The savings as a result of using a monitor can be between $2000 and $20,000 dollars per compactor each year depending on what type of service is currently in place.

History?
I am very surprised and disappointed to find very little discussion of the history of compactors here, especially their origins. 47.186.164.159 (talk) 06:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)