Talk:Confucius Peace Prize

Comparison to German National peace price
I feel that the German National peace prize comparison is completely relevant. The stories are almost completely parallel. In both cases, an alternative prize was created in response to the Nobel prize being awarded to an imprisoned dissident. It's politically charged for sure, but I don't see how it can be irrelevant. I do realize that it seems a bit over-weighted due to the shortness of the rest of the article.

Also note that this was comparison was made in the Wall Street Journal (news article, not opinion), so clearly the comparison has been deemed relevant by a mainstream source.Sccampion (talk) 18:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * That's kind of a original research. The German National Prize for Art and Science was not even mentioned in the Wall Street Journal article . Also, you skipped one major difference between this prize and the Lenin Prize and the German National Peace prize; those prizes were created and given money by the government. This prize was not.--Ceaerrist (talk) 01:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll grant your point on the gov't sponsorship, but calling this "original research" is a stretch. The WSJ article says "The Nazis and the Soviets both established their own prizes to rival the Nobels.", after which I looked up "Nazi peace prize" on Wikipedia. The article also specifically mentions the 1936 von Ossietsky award. Either way I'm not going to get in an edit war over this, just going to glibly and with no argument or substantiation insist that I'm right and the deleter is wrong.Sccampion (talk) 17:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

However, it seems this is just some media stunt. Ming Pao, Hong Kong Commercial Daily , Sin Chew Daily are reporting that China's Minister of Culture had talked to Taipei, and that they've never heard of this prize until the news coverages, and Lien Chen weren't even officially informed by anyone. The letter issued by the Committee to the winner also did not have "Ministry of Culture"'s seal on it. According to the United Daily News in Taipei, "China's Ministry of Culture never even heard of the name of the award." --Ceaerrist (talk) 07:32, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

2010 Nobel Peace Prize
Reuters has reported (here) that the Confucius Peace Prize was created as an alternative to the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize. Reuters reports that, "It was meant to be China's answer to the Nobel Peace Prize, a timely riposte to the honoring of jailed dissident Liu Xiaobo."

The article goes on to suggest that, "Its timing is no coincidence, coming the day before the Nobel is formally awarded to Liu in Oslo, an event that has prompted a slew of invective from the Chinese government for honoring a man it calls a subversive and a criminal."

The relevance of the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize to this article could not be more obvious.  Uncensored Kiwi  Kiss 21:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. I think that the article should convey the flurry of commentary which asserts that the prize is a direct response to this year's Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to Liu Xiabao. I also believe that some of irony and critical remarks made in that context should be presented. None of this is currently present. __meco (talk) 09:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Comparison with German and Russian Prizes
I find the comparisons and inclusion of them in the "see also" section offensive and misleading. This prize was set up by a private Chinese citizen who has nationalist sympathies, which may or may not had government backing. News reported that neither the Chinese government or the recipient Lien Chan has heard of the prize. This is quite different from the German Prize, officially sanctioned by Adolf Hitler, and the Lenin Prize, also sanctioned by the Russian government and was given annually until 1990. I'm removing the comparisons.60.242.159.224 (talk) 05:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Both are relevant as past examples of prizes set up as alternatives to the Nobel Peace Prize.--Banana (talk) 06:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There are other awards given by other countries eg Presidential Medal of Freedom in the US. Why not add the German and Soviet Prizes there? The fact that it's added here shows that the editors are obviously biased against China and trying to use them to discredit the award. And it's suggesting that the award has official backing, when it does not.60.242.159.224 (talk) 11:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And I love how editors specifically chose these two awards that are usually negatively viewed, and yet ignore other alternatives awards such as the Ig Nobel Prize (American parody), the Right Livelihood Award (created by Jakob von Uexkull after his proposal was rejected by the Nobel Committee), the Abel Prize (the mathematical equivalent).


 * Looking at the Peace Awards category, there's also hundreds of peace prizes given out by various governments such as Gandhi Peace Award, Indira Gandhi Prize etc. None of them have references to Adolf Hitler or Nazi Germany --60.242.159.224 (talk) 12:04, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I read that Mordechai Vanunu was banned by Israel from accepting the 2010 Carl von Ossietzky Medal --60.242.159.224 (talk) 12:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Please don't say I am "obviously biased against China and trying to use them to discredit the award". I assure you I am not part of a anti-China cable. Wikipedia also has a policy on assuming good faith of other editors. The issue is now moot as the two alternate awards are now mentioned in the article (after the Economist made the connection).--Banana (talk) 23:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Origin - Wrong citation?
Could the following sentence be wrong: "According to The Guardian, a committee member at the 2010 ceremony said that the prize was first given in 1901 [...]." Reading the article in the Guardian, which is cited as a reference, I find only the following mention of the year 1901: "Tan boasted that the prize had a longer history than the Nobel, which may surprise the Norwegians; their award was first handed out in 1901." Clearly, I'd say it is the Nobel (Peace) Prize that is meant by "their award". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.237.70 (talk) 23:06, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed sentence. Thanks for noticing it.  --Nlu (talk) 02:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Great parody!
What a wonderful parody of the Nobel! How many people does a government leader have to kill or imprison to win this prize? Viriditas (talk) 03:38, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Category:Ironic and humorous awards
I removed the category "Ironic and humorous awards" from this page. I see no reason to believe that the Confucius Peace Prize is being given ironically. I mean, I think that Vladimir Putin, Fidel Castro, and Robert Mugabe are terrible choices to be given a peace prize, but this award is given by sympathizers of the Chinese Communist government and they don't necessarily think the same way that I do, or that the Norwegian Nobel Committee thinks. Note that the Confucius Peace Prize supposedly comes with a cash award; if someone were giving a sarcastic award for "worst dictator" under the guise of a peace prize, they certainly wouldn't award the dictator a cash prize. Furthermore, some of the shortlisted nominees for the Confucius Peace Prize are plausible recipients of a peace prize. Kofi Annan had won the Nobel Peace Prize before winning the Confucius award, and it wouldn't be ironic for an organization in the West to give Ban Ki-Moon, Bill Gates, or Angela Merkel a humanitarian award. Similarly, the achievements of agricultural scientist Yuan Longping, who won the Confucius Peace Prize for developing hybrid rice, appear to be in the tradition of Norman Borlaug, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for developing hybrid wheat. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

2016 Prize
Has the 2016 Prize been awarded? If not, are there any plans to do so? 71.114.83.248 (talk) 04:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I've updated the article. It was awarded to three Chinese peacekeepers who were killed while serving in Mali and South Sudan, respectively. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:14, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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