Talk:Cornish National Liberation Army

A tag has been placed on Cornish National Liberation Army, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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A press release from the organization in question does not constitute information Kriegaffe 15:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, this is pure propaganda for an avowed racist organisation, and should be removed.

Agree. This seems like a hoax — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.160.187 (talk) 20:29, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Hang on
While no one is sure whether such an organisation actually exists, it has been mentioned in the mainstream media in recent days. The statement should be removed, but some basic information on this organisation should be retained.

The CNLA has been mentioned in the following articles (selection):
 * Cornish firebomb threat to top chefs, Daily Telegraph, 14 June 2007
 * Cornish independence is back on the menu, Daily Telegraph, 15 June 2007
 * Cornish militants rise again - and this time they're targeting celebrity chefs, Guardian, 14 June 2007
 * Fighting them on the beaches, Guardian, 15 June 2007


 * I've heard everything on the page on BBC news - premature to delete, and reports factually. Jimfbleak 18:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I have added a cautionary sentence at the end and merged the MK comments. Crococolana 16:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * This article now seems out of date. It was no more than a news story that hit the headlines in 2007. The group (if it ever was a group) lasted less than 6 months Talskiddy 08:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Fire incident
An unregistered editor with their first edit has placed below the footnotes the following statement: "'This man answered his police bail on the 14th August 2007, and was released from bail with no charges brought against him due to a complete lack of evidence. He is currently taking legal advice in respect of action against the police and the Sun newspaper of London who incorrectly identified him as a terrorist.'"

I suspect that they may be correct but no source is given. Unless a reliable-ish source is provided within 24 hours, this paragraph will be deleted. Vernon White - TALK PAGE  16:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Press gag
"The information was released on various websites due to alleged gag orders on the press."

Alleged gag order? By whom, who alleged this? Unless this can be verified I'll remove it.Serpren (talk) 12:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree. I don't like it either and haven't been able to find confirmation on the Web. It was added by an Anon who hasn't been back since, I'm all for removal. ↔ Dennywuh (talk) 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Excised the comment. ↔ Dennywuh (talk) 15:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Existence?
Is there any evidence that the organisation itself actually was ever anything more than a hoax? Govynn (talk) 16:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I notice another user has reverted claims that the existence of the CNLA is in fact a hoax. Also, I point out that website for the citation entitled "CNLA leader dines at fifteen - the acceptance of Jamie Oliver", http://www.fifteencornwallblog.co.uk/olis-update-complex-carbs-are-important-part-of-diet/ has nothing to do with "Stuart Ramsay".

In addition, I can't find anything connecting the name "Stuart Ramsay" with "CNLA" via Google searches, at least not websites that don't seem to be mirrors or forks of wikipedia itself. My supposition is, that if "Stuart Ramsay" is actually named in the relevant "Cornish World" interview, it is probably a pseudonym, and if so, what evidence is there to substantiate any claims made in that interview referring to the existence of a CNLA organisation?

Govynn (talk) 07:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

The previous citation regarding "Stuart Ramsay" and Fifteen Cornwall has been removed from the main article, since it appears clear the title is spurious and misleading

The actual content has nothing to do with any CNLA.

Govynn (talk) 07:50, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


 * There's also no real evidence to suggest it was some anti-Cornish campaign by the police, mind you, sounds like the Celtic league are just stirring up those ridicules "Cornish Opression" fringe theories. --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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