Talk:Corpse paint

discussion moved from talk:Corpse paint in heavy metal
I've moved this from corpse paint because that term is not restricted to heavy metal. Corpse paint may be used in religious ceremonies, for instance, or in other art forms. JoaoRicardo 15:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * eh, what a pointless venture. you've just redirected the corpse paint article to this one. if you know enough about these so-called artistic or religious uses of the practice called "corpse paint" (not practices that resemble corpse paint, but which are called something else), write a separate article about it. if not, i'm reverting this meaningless change in a couple of days. supine 16:05, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Every move (renaming) creates a redirect from the old to the new name automatically. Please see How to rename (move) a page. I was going to list it in Redirects for deletion and wait for someone knowledgeable to write it in the future. If I understand correctly, you are saying that this term is only used within the heavy metal community. I googled for it and, indeed, most if not all occurrences seem to be related to heavy metal or similar musical genres. When I made the move, I was paying attention to the significance of the term corpse paint itself, which can be applied to whichever painting some does in his/her own corpse. Maybe it was a mistake not to check how this term is actually used. As it currently stands, I believe you are right. So if you want to move it back, I won't start a move war with you. But please let me point out to you that I consider it as a violation of Wikiquette your labeling an other editor's change "meaningless" or "pointless". Criticism is good, insulting is not. Thanks for the remark.JoaoRicardo 02:04, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Joao, I appreciate your intentions, but I have never heard of any use of the term "corpse paint" outside of heavy metal. I accept that similar practices occur in other contexts, but the phrase "corpse paint" is not used, unless I am mistaken (if you can provide references to contradict me, you are welcome to do so). If someone wants to write about the use of similar makeup for ritual purposes or whatever, they should create a separate article. See Vesica piscis and Ichthys for an example of similar topics that have different meanings due to context. -leigh (&#966;&#952;&#8057;&#947;&#947;&#959;&#962;)


 * Perhaps that isn't the name, but the mask is used in certain ceremonies where imitating dead. I don't have references, but see Bielebog and passage of the living to Valhalla.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.216.199.10 (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2005 (UTC)


 * There is no reference as far as I know to the term "corpse paint" in other contexts than metal. If you read the seminal work "Lords of Chaos" though there are ample references to Germanic legends and lore (both from Austria and Norway) when dealing with corpsepaint. The term might be new, but the similarities are striking. The "glam rock" makeup is on the other hand a completely different thing. It has never been called corpse paint and should not be mensioned at all, in my opinion, in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.55.81.69 (talk) 22:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * For the record, the article was moved at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_metal&diff=9894846&oldid=9888608 and the redirected article https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corpse_paint_in_heavy_metal&redirect=no


 * Arthur Brown and Alice Cooper, who used corpse paint, were not just heavy metal musicians. This supports moving the article like it was in 2005. Face painting that resembles corpse paint has been used by circus clowns as well. Corpse paint is notable enough to have an article like it does.


 * "On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability Bevidsthed (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Alice Cooper
Does Alice Cooper even count? All he's wearing is eyeliner. Last I checked, eyeliner was not corpse paint. Dysfunktion 23:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Same with Dave Vanian. If you're going to include him; you might as well add Siouxsie Sioux, Adam Ant, and Jordan (Ants Girlfriend and Vivienne Westwood model) since they had a more original style. Alot better than just painting black circles around their eyes anyway.

Justin

King Diamond
No mention of Merciful Fate and King Diamond?

The makeup of KISS was taken from Japanese kabuki theater paint/masks and not 'corpse paint' whatever that is. Though I suspect many of the later artists were copying KISS more than they were trying to look like zombies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.210.189.180 (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hellhammer and Celtic Frost
Aren't they the same band? *rolls eyes*

Immortal
Isn't it a bit wrong to use Immortal as the main example of corpse paint when they claim it is infact war-paint that they wear, not corpse-paint?

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Explain the difference. 83.254.42.117 (talk) 09:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Usual corpsepaint making methods
How is corpse paint made? I mean it's interesting to know what is used as white and black paint? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenrisulfrsen (talk • contribs) 15:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That is sort of like asking how bodypaint is made. There are different ways to make it. See for example https://www.kscopeart.com/face-painting-ingredients-and-safety/ or https://www.personalcreations.com/blog/homemade-face-paint Bevidsthed (talk) 00:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Kiss
I added Gene Simmons since there were two from Gorgoroth, article is about Corpse Paint not death/black metal or even rock per se. Its fair to say Kiss have used Corpse paint far longer than most of the one's depicted Bluecapsulesex (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * It would be great if you first read the rules before adding pictures. Is plagiarism of text allowed in Wikipedia? No. Is plagiarism with images allowed? No. You can not simply grab an image from the internet and claim it your own work, but it must be entirely your own work that you can publish it under a free license and thats requried for images in the free encyclopedia... Please pay attention to copyrights and dont make false author statements. The reason why we have no image of Kiss in the gallery is possibly that 1) Wikipedia is not a picture book 2) we dont have a free image. --Martin H. (talk) 19:30, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * get an English coach, you seem like a retard :))) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TampaGMKid (talk • contribs) 23:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate any corrections to my posting. --Martin H. (talk) 00:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC

KISS wear face paint. Corpse paint is associated with black metal. It is not fair to say any such thing. 77.101.47.254 (talk) 15:16, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

ICP???
Isn't ICP more an example, and openly admitted so, of clown makeup? I fail to see how clown makeup classifies as corpse paint. 72.251.19.2 (talk) 12:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Good observation. It doesn't. I cleaned that section up a little but I'm not convinced it should exist. 77.101.47.254 (talk) 15:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Gallery
Is it nescessary to have 20 pictures demonstrating corpse paint? 212.250.138.33 (talk) 02:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

What's the point of the "Styles outside metal" section?
Corpse paint is strictly associated with black metal. A crossover band might wear it to acknowledge BM influence, but devoid of cultural context it's just face-paint.

Unless someone can argue convincingly for this section I will delete it. 77.101.47.254 (talk) 12:46, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Still waiting. 77.101.47.254 (talk) 15:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I would delete it, unless a direct connection to black metal can be proved. Other uses are just other uses of facepaint.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 15:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Venom????
As far as I know Venom never used corpse paint.

Corpse Paint Origin
The origins of the corpse paint is not just for them to appear inhumane. It started way back since pagan priests used to corpse paint their faces during a sacrificial ritual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.103.8.98 (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Image
I think that the top picture in the article could be improved. It's not a super distinct image, especially since a lot of the actual corpse paint is covered by the spikes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8A89:390:ADC6:902A:E963:3599 (talk) 21:24, 2 January 2022 (UTC)