Talk:Courage the Cowardly Dog/Archive 1

Production Section
What exactly does that paragraph have to with Courage? It is all about Smart talk with Raisin or some crap like that. It doesn't need to take up the WHOLE section. I giving the Smart Talk its own page.

The house
Is the opening shot of the farmhouse in some episodes based on a famous painting? There's this painting in my grandparents' house that looks almost exactly like that opening shot.

dilung
Does anyone know anything about the character "dilung"? I never saw him on the show and google doesn't have any results.
 * I've never heard of him. Considering I've seen virtually every Courage episode, he can't be a very important character if I've never heard of him, and probably shouldn't have his own subsection. Although...if I could see some pics, I might remember him. ~ Oni Lukos ct 21:02, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe he's the oriental character in certain episodes, known for his catchphrase "Watch where you're going... ya foo!" I didn't realize he actually had a name... ChewyLSB 03:44, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

dilung has a stung souteast asian accent, has black hair, sunglasses, an genreally skinny features as well as rather large lips. although i had never seen him referrred to by the name dilung, i recognized the character by the signature line "watch where ya going ya foo".

"Tv.com" lists his name as "Di Lung", so I changed it.

In the episodes Carbaret Courage, if you look on is flyers, it says his name is Di Lung.

Episodic villains
Recently, villians exclusively from the episode The Tower of Doctor Zalost have been added to this article. If we got into episodic villains, the article could become extremely large. Perhaps we should split it into an article "Episodic villians from Courage the Cowardly Dog"? Or perhaps "Episodic characters from Courage the Cowardly Dog" for episodic characters, regardless of whether or not they are villainous. ~ Oni Lukos ct 13:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC) 13:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Disorganization
It may be just me, but this article seems a little disorganized and confusing. For example, the "Production" section seems like a collection of trivia and fun facts (which are arranged confusingly and come back at each other). The section about Eustace wanders all over the place, going from talking about his personality to discussing the voice actors and then returning to his personality. Could someone please clean up the article a bit? ~FlareXyron 11:32 PM 7/8/06

Farm Dog
I have seen a series of paper back books called Courgious The Cowerdly Farm Dog or something similar. Both the book and this show have a similar premis, they both came out at I think the same time but I cant find anything saying if this show is based of the books or vice versa. --WisK 02:11, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Tenesse Williams reference
Quote from trivia section: "If something frustrates Eustace, he frequently leaves the house. Muriel catches him and asks where he is going. He responds,"I'm going to the picture show."". I believe (but am not sure) that this sentence is a reference from 'The Glass Menagerie' of Tenessee Williams. Can someone (dis)approve ? ARRG 01:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Courage and Flag semaphore
I seem to remember courage using flag semaphore quite a bit, the clearest memory is from that episode where there's a theif with split personality (looking back at the list of episodes, I think it's "Family Business"). Does he use it in enough episodes for the article (or the characters article) to say he uses semaphore often, several or many times? If so, it should also be added to the "references in fiction" subtitle of the Semaphore article. If not, is it just a one-off occurence that registered repeatedly in my memory because of reruns?200.44.7.123 03:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Not sure what to make of this strange paragraph
"'A fifth season was considered on this show but was never made. Eustace Bagge is derived from Useless Bag (Indeed, his deceased brother Horace, during one of Eustace's flashbacks calls him 'Useless') because he treats Muriel like a slave and only thinks of himself, in a similar manner to an abusive husband. Bad Hair Day (Season 2, Episode 8) is mainly a spoof of Michael Crichton's 1978 mystery film Coma. Many of the episodes have classical music playing in the background when certain situations occur. There is a song 'Courage the Cowardly Dog' by They Might Be Giants. Notable people have guest-starred, such as Ringo Starr, Tim Curry, and Jim Cummings. In one of the older Cartoon Network Fridays, Muriel is shown hosting the Fridays. Muriel is the daughter of a pig-farmer (Craig Bartlett) and a poor old tailor who eats cows (Unseen Characters) In The Shadow of Courage, Courage takes the form of a burglar, trying to tell Eustace and Muriel that somebody is there, that same burglar was a character in Family Business, a second season episode. The beginning of The Magic Tree of Nowhere is a spoof on the fairy tale Jack and the Beanstalk. The tree growing scene at the beginning is also a reference to the beanstalk growing scene in Mickey and the Beanstalk. At one point, there were plans to be a movie based upon the series when it ended, but the concept was eventually dropped. At one point, there was a music video featuring Courage on Cartoon Network that was sung by They Might Be Giants. In one episode featuring a zombie antagonist named Benton Tarantella, a reference is probably made to Mike Lazzo. Tarantella is said to be a criminal partnered with another zombie named Lazzo. In a plot to kill the Bagges, Tarantella pretends to be shooting a show about the lives of them, much like reality television. Near the end of the episode, Tarantella is saying to Lazzo on his cell phone, 'It will be a huge hit, Lazzo!' In this same episode, in the end, you see the Courage and Muriel watching the movie they made (with the changes Courage made). You can see at the end of it, when you see Courage hitting the ground where he buried the zombies. If you look closely, you can see that that scene resembles another one in a later episode named 'feast of the bullfrogs'.'"

As of right now, I've deleted it from the article, unless there's some reason for it to be there. For whatever reason, it was placed under "Production," which makes no sense to me. Frankly I think most of the paragraph should just be eliminated completely since it largely consists of random anecdotes from various episodes, although a few pieces of information could be salvaged and put in appropriate context as opposed to being mashed into this paragraph.--Foot Dragoon 23:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion this information shouldn't be deleted because it is quite interesting. Instead someone should arrange it into bulleted points under the heading "Random Facts". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.101.172.149 (talk) 11:47, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Reaccuring Gags
I cleaned up the section as well as possible and removed the tag. Seems okay right now, though I may be wrong. Anakalypsis 01:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Sugesstion: Make a new article with this list and link to it from here Sonicjosh 01:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Couragedog.gif
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New Season or not?
It says here that it is currently unknown if it is in production again. But then on Perfect (Courage the Cowardly Dog) it says that Perfect was the series finale but that new episodes are to be shown in the summer of 2007. I know there are alot of petitions for another season, but I don't know. Courage the Cowardly Dog does rerun currently at 10:00 pm, but could that be a sign that it will soon show new episodes?? Someone help me out here please. 68.195.110.145 03:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

3 or 6 more days and we find out whether or not because it is kind of running out of episodes it will premire or it will repeat it's episodes from episode 1Youknowme(youdon&#39;tknowme) 04:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tagged it as unreferenced and needing a citation. If someone doesn't come up with some evidence soon, I reccomend removing all such claims. Lucky number 49 00:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The show started airing from the beginning again last night. There are no new episodes. I'm removing all such references, and unless a source is ever found, I really don't want to see these rumors again. They've been going on too long. ~ Oni Lukos ct 01:24, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll try to keep a weather eye open, myself. Lucky number 49 01:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

No, Courage How could you, No, Wait There's Still Hope you Guys (and Girls), Wait untill FallYouknowme(youdon&#39;tknowme) 17:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hope is fine, but we shouldn't let it compromise the integrity of the article. Unless we have a reliable source to cite, anything we'd say would be in violation of policy. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, we cannot make statements about what might be, only what demonstrably will be. Lucky number 49 23:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Whe'ver Sorry for being so DramaticYouknowme(youdon&#39;tknowme) 21:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Banned Episode
Wasn't the episode King Ramses' Curse banned at some point? If it was, shouldn't it have a mention on this page in a Censorship or Banned ssection? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.111.228.169 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never heard about this episode being banned. It's still on, so if there was a ban at some point, it's been lifted. I can't imagine why it would be banned, though. ~ Oni Lukos ct 00:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure? My cousin has claimed to see "The Clutching Foot", but he's never seen "King Ramses' Curse". Well, I believe that the creepier/scarier episodes (i.e. "The House of Discontent" and "Windmill Vandals") were not banned. But didn't this episode bother anyone at all? I could've sworn this episode was banned at some point in time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.228.169 (talk • contribs)

It WAS NOT banned. I saw it the other day on CN. There is like five uploads of it on Youtube. Why did you think it was banned? It wasn't murder or drug abuse, or anything.

I think the rumor of it beingn banned started was when people heard Cartoon Netwrok had Messages saying it was by far the scariest episode of Courage the cowrdly dog since it had an ancient curse a 3-D ancient Mummy/ghost and a propable death of 2 criminals by a Gigantic sworm of deadly locusts so people ASUMED it was bannedYouknowme(youdon&#39;tknowme) 01:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Well then, how could my cousin have seen "The Clutching Foot" if he didn't see this? Hm? I think the only reasonable answer is the CN censors. And I haven't seen it since October when Dracula was hosting that Billy+Mandy and Courage the Cowardly Dog marathon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.223.14 (talk • contribs) 21:46, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

Maybe, your cousin started watching on the second half of the episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.203.151 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 6 September 2007(UTC)

That's possible. Hm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.39.102 (talk) 15:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * In any case, your cousin is by no means a credible source. What makes a man turn neutral? (talk) 17:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Courages Parents
What is the name of the episode when courage finds the truth about his parents?


 * Remembrance of Courage Past. — May the Edit be with you, always. ( T | C ) 03:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hanna-Barbera Studios
As I know the pilot was produced by H-B, and as much that I wish that the whole series was (in my opinion it would be even greater than what it was), where is the evidence, source, interview, that confirms this. As far as I know it was always meant to be produced by Stretch Films, though I think it would have been better was it produced by H-B. But my opinion doesn't count, and I need to know for sure whether it was originally supposed to be produced by HB. 68.195.110.145 22:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Ok well that's just dandy, because I definetly know that three words is going to make it real. Does anyone have a source that actually confirms this?? 24.186.101.182 16:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

No page for main characters
Because of redirects on the pages of the main characters, they don't have their own pages or even a collective page about them. There are pages for secondary characters and episodic characters, but Courage, Eustice, and Muriel don't have anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RadLink5 (talk • contribs) 20:03, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, fixed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RadLink5 (talk • contribs) 20:10, August 26, 2007 (UTC)


 * It still does not go anywhere. In fact, none of the character links go anywhere. BioYu-Gi! 17:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, what's with this? None of the character links work anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.208.218 (talk) 16:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Location of Nowhere
From the intros I can remember, and all the ones posted at Youtube, I didn't hear Kansas being mentioned anywhere. It can be assumed it takes plase there though. — May the Edit be with you, always. ( T | C ) 15:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned a few times throughout the series. I definitely remember the General and his lackey mentioning it in the episode Courage the Fly. ~ Oni Lukos ct 16:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Aah, so that's where it was mentioned. Thanks. Glad it was resolved so quickly. — May the Edit be with you, always. ( T | C ) 17:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I have made a geuss of its location, on an episode today it was shown in the exact center of kansas, and that its real-life equivlent would be in Rice County, Kansas near Bushton, Kansas.--Sonicobbsessed (talk) 01:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Characters
Isn't there supposed to be a section detailing the main characters?-- 60 Delta  02:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I was just thinking about that... Should someone make one??? looly lolly 1997  —Preceding comment was added at 21:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is Courage described as a bi sexual dog? Is there any reliable fact that support that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.237.180.163 (talk) 10:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Please, obvious vandalism. It's just playing on the constant changing of his fur color. — May the Edit be with you, always. ( T | C ) 17:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

American DVD confirmation...?
Yeah, so the article claims that CtCD gets a US release this month, but I haven't heard anything about it and I can't find confirmation anywhere. I'm removing it from the article until someone finds a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.180.225.10 (talk) 08:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

"It will be released for Region 1 Summer 2008." Where is the source for this statement? 99.129.199.221 (talk) 05:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

"Current Status" section changes
I added information for the status of this show's airing times and such in the United Kingdom - all of the information before my edit pertained to the US version of CN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.184.87 (talk) 23:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

"Academy Award nominated" ?
I found no evidence for this on IMDB or anywhere else. This is either vandalism or mistaken info. 98.229.186.63 (talk) 17:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Correction, my mistake. The Chicken From Outer Space was nominated as a short. But this is a bit misleading as the article is mostly about the entire series. 98.229.186.63 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Given the phrasing, I agree and have removed the offending qualification. It is still mentioned in the section on the pilot, however.  Λύκος  05:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

New Season
Recently, there has been an influx of changes done to indicate that there is a new season or movie. I did a little research and found nothing to support this. If someone can find a legitimate source, then fine, but until then, please do not post rumors on the page. --Exer 505 (talk) 07:59, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Emmy nominated?
I've checked on the IMDb for Emmy nomination for the animated short and the show, and there is none. The show only won the Annie award and the Golden Reel Award. The short never won or nominated any Emmys. Do you thank that's possible that the show and the animated short never won any Emmys? - (Jj98 (talk) 19:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC))

Fifth season unlikely
"In 2003, it was rumored that the network was considering a fifth season for the show and many fans compiled an online petition for Cartoon Network to run that fifth season. However, the petition was never sent to the network, which decided not to renew their four-year contract. There would probably not have been a fifth season at any rate: the production team had finished an exhausting year at the end of two full unbroken seasons, and felt that they were finished for a while. They decided to work on a new series for Cartoon Network though this never went beyond pre-production. That same year, there were talks about two new projects, neither of which came to fruition. The first was a CD soundtrack produced by the series composer Jody Gray, having music scores from the series and popular songs. The second was a possible feature-length movie, although they did not discuss whether it would have been a made-for-TV movie or a theatrical release."

I don't think that's possible for a fifth season, although the show originally ran for four seasons. It appears to be a rumor or fancruft or a hoax. Let's not forget that Lionel G. Wilson, the voice of Eustace, he died in 2003 pneumonia. JJ98 (talk) 14:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Not Black Comedy!
What? Courage the Cowardly Dog is not Black Comedy at all! --99.124.134.167 (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

You're kidding, right? Courage the Cowardly Dog is indeed a black comedy. At times, it's got a rather dark sense of humor.--King-9 (talk) 19:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Imrpovments
I have did some work for the article, although I agree with Tbhotch concerns, this article isn't GA enough, like the overview section contains some copyright violation possibly copied the other website. Some concerns were raised by Tbhotch at the peer review:

This section is extremely similar to this, especially "Courage the Cowardly Dog revolves around the exploits of Courage, a small, fuchsia dog who, despite his name, is afraid of the most mundane things". I recommend you to use your own words and avoid this because it can be seen as a copyright violation.

I have reworded a little bit, but however, I have removed the broadcast section which is entirely unsourced, including some unreliable sources like IMDb, and one Wikia link which violates WP:ELNO. The main problem is sorceing. Until the article is improved, the article can be nominated at WP:GAN. JJ98 (Talk)  05:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

More work needed
Since I've peer reviewed the article, I've cleaned up some copyvio, it looks like b-class just like The Powerpuff Girls, I am going do some work before taking to GAN. However, it needs a lot a work to be done. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  07:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Website took down
I've took the official Cartoon Network website off it because it no longer shows on the site. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  03:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Cartoon Planet
From the Wiki article:

On April 13, 2012, this series will return to Cartoon Network to show re-runs on the revived block, "Cartoon Planet".

From the article linked as a citation:

It’s sad that Courage the Cowardly Dog isn’t mentioned by name

There is no confirmation that Courage the Cowardly Dog will be part of this programming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.16.104.2 (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Season 2 DVD
I just saw this DVD for sale at my local WalMart with a sticker on the packaging that indicated it was only sold at WM. I'm guessing they got the exclusive rights to sell until October 14th. Regardless, I can't find a source for it anywhere, but I know for sure this DVD is already in WM stores. Paper Luigi T • C 05:20, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't really care about this anymore. I am the one that I got this article improved almost five years ago. It should be remained as a start-class. I gave up editing this article because after it was poorly done. I don't feel like improving this article and putting up for GAN any time soon because of fan speculation or original research. I think this is poorly written. How sad. JJ98 (Talk) 04:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Forgive me, but I don't see what the article's quality rating has to do with the Season 2 DVD release. Paper Luigi  T • C 18:23, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Is Courage the Cowardly Dog semi-European?
I watched several European Cartoon Network videos with Courage the Cowardly Dog clips in them, so is it possible that Courage the Cowardly Dog is semi-European? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.37.124 (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2016‎ (UTC)
 * More likely nothing other than that it was licensed for distribution in Europe and that it had, or has, enough interest over there to warrant continued display. — JamesEG (talk) 05:13, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Ending Tropes
I would make mention of the fact that there seems to be a large rift of discontinuity between most episodes, but such things would need to be compiled, assessed, and analyzed by a professional critic for them to be credible here — i.e. a page which has had such a sordid history of edits. — JamesEG (talk) 06:30, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Final comments
Its been almost seven years since I've done this article very poorly, with no efforts to improve since I've listed at peer review. I don't think really need to contribute to this article anymore. I've added a to do list for suggestions. I did some searching about the rumors of the show and found a forum that nothing makes me confident, and all appears to be WP:CRYSTAL. The more I dig and everything about Courage the Cowardly Dog, and traced as AWN as source, and no evidence that actual production started and all this is false (that everyone in this show died or left). I did also some digging at IMDb, and found no evidence to support this. It could have been based from Smart talk from Rasin from Liquid Television. As it stands, I think this article reads like a fansite, and it won't pass as a GA in its current state and it needs a total rewrite if I'm right. I could be wrong, and does not seem to be happening and it needs to clear things up. Its not a very popular show. I think my edits to this article was a big mistake since I came here, I know that people worked hard for it, and I doubt they did so apparently as a trustworthy source. JJ98 (Talk) 07:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * So, please don't take this to be condescending or arrogant, but: if you are happening to read this, would you mind reading your comment again and revising it?  It seems like you omitted clauses in many of your statements; a few sentences seem to be merged as a result of that.  E.g. the first sentence:  did you actually mean to say that you did this very poorly seven years ago, and that you made no efforts to improve it since you reviewed it? I ask because I'd like to see what you meant to say, but your comment was either vague or unintelligible in several places. — JamesEG (talk) 06:38, 1 October 2017 (UTC)