Talk:Crew of the Titanic

Sections
Stuff completed is struck out.


 * Ship's Officers
 * Deck Crew
 * Engine Crew
 * Victualing Crew
 * Restaurant Staff
 * Postal Clerks
 * Guarantee Group
 * Ship's Orchestra

Engineer officers
It appears that most of the engineer officers have not been listed and those that have have been listed among the "engine crew". These men should no more be listed with the engine crew than the deck officers should with the deck crew. -- Necrothesp 18:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Edward Ernest Bagley
Does anyone know anything about this man and his family? He is a distant cousin of mine and i want to know more —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.83.160 (talk) 17:00, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * There's some general information here and here Hope this helps! Morhange 17:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Main Page appearance on 15 April
Please note that I have nominated Sinking of the RMS Titanic to appear on the Main Page next month on 15 April. In conjunction with that, it is proposed that this article will also be linked from the Main Page on the same day. Please see Today's featured article/requests for details. Prioryman (talk) 23:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Page views on the centenary day
This article was one of eleven Titanic-related articles linked from the Featured Article box on Wikipedia's Main Page on 15 April 2012, the centenary of the Titanic disaster. I thought editors here might be interested to know the level of usage the articles got on that day:


 * RMS Titanic - 430,012 page views
 * Sinking of the RMS Titanic cscr-featured.svg - 177,040
 * Titanic (1997 film) Symbol_support_vote.svg - 132,054
 * Passengers of the RMS Titanic - 38,273
 * RMS Carpathia - 33,952
 * Wreck of the RMS Titanic - 30,051
 * Lifeboats of the RMS Titanic - 13,270
 * List of films about the RMS Titanic - 10,226
 * Crew of the RMS Titanic - 9,541
 * RMS Titanic in popular culture - 8,418
 * Changes in safety practices following the RMS Titanic disaster - 4,095
 * Total page views for Featured box articles - 886,932

Well done to everyone who contributed to making Wikipedia's commemoration of the Titanic such a big success! Prioryman (talk) 23:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Estimated?
The first sentence of this article says, "The crew of the RMS Titanic were among the estimated 2,208 people who sailed on the maiden voyage . . ." (emphasis added)

However, another Wikipedia article, Passengers of the Titanic, states: "A total of 2,208 people sailed on the maiden voyage of the RMS Titanic . . ." -- with no indication that the 2,208 number is an "estimate". This article also gives what looks to be a complete list of names.

Well, which is it? One article or the other needs to be corrected.

Responsibilities of Surgeon and Assistant Surgeon
The statement regarding responsibilities of the two medial officers was to indicate that these were White Star Lin employees and uniformed officers with access to the ship's hospital and pharmaceuticals and responsibility to treat crew or passenger of any class, as opposed to the several medical doctors traveling as passengers who had no access to the ship's hospital and no responsibility to treat any patient.
 * Yes that's what ship doctors or doctors employed by an organisation do. I don't think we need a further definition of what a doctor's responsibilities are. No one is going to interpret it otherwise. Canterbury Tail talk 18:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * There were medical doctors among the passengers; the passenger MDs were under no obligation to render aid and did not have access to the ship's hospital. Perhaps that was worded incorrectly. Dkendr (talk) 15:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Why would anyone expect otherwise? This is an article about the crew, whether there are doctors on the passenger list or not is not relevant to this article. Canterbury Tail talk 16:05, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The other positions on the ship contained thumbnail sketches of their expected duties. I therefore added a couple of sentences to the paragraph to describe their relationship to the White Star Line and their access to the shipboard hospital facilities. Dkendr (talk) 20:21, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Elimination of duplicate personal data
There are several names listed twice on this page. These doubles should be deleted and the crew data should be numbered in the left column. I compile the statistics of the crew and passengers, and from this list it appears that there were more crew than in reality. Here is the duplicate data: Seaton Blake 27 Louis Desvernine 21 John Rice 26 John Coleman 58 James Fraser 30 Charles Light 24 Auguste Coutin 29 Regards Mir.Nalezinski (talk) 14:09, 20 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Interestingly - "Rice, Mr. John Reginald" (25 yrs.) in the table is one person or two? There are two times in the table (as a clerk and as a steward - one below the other). Is this a mistake or are they really two different people?
 * Source: Crew of the Titanic Mir.Nalezinski (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Pos. 169 (non-existent column, which is a pity - it should be on the left side of the table) Fraser, Mr. James (29 y.) Belfast
 * 170 Fraser, Mr. James (29 y.) Southampton
 * 704 Rice, Mr. John Reginald (25 y.) Southampton
 * 705 Rice, Mr. John Reginald (25 y.) Southampton
 * Are they the same people? Mir.Nalezinski (talk) 17:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Are they the same people? Mir.Nalezinski (talk) 17:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Swapped hometowns and positions in Engineering section
The hometowns and positions from Brown to Butt in the table of the Engineering section are swapped. Please rectify this. Thank you. Leekipedia (talk) 00:58, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

question #1 - Liverpool
Can someone clarify the various listings regarding Liverpool? (I'm in the U.S., so not familiar with this.) A common mention is "Liverpool, Lancashire, England". But there are others, like "Kirkdale, Liverpool, England" and "Liverpool, Merseyside, England". There are even 2 listings for "Bootle, Lancashire, England"; I thought Bootle was part of Liverpool. How do these different areas relate to Liverpool proper? Are they specific areas within Liverpool, or larger areas that Liverpool itself is a part of? Thanks. Elsquared67 (talk) 08:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Currently Kirkdale is a district of Liverpool, Merseyside. Merseyside is a Metropolitan Borough. A metroplitan borough has it's own form of local government. Historically, Kirkdale was a village independant of Liverpool; over the years it grew into a town and then became part of the borough. The way that the Post Office used to work before post codes/ zip codes  when you addressed an envelope you  would include the name and street, the town or village that you wanted it to go,  plus the name of the city with the main sorting office in it. eg: Kirkdale, LIVERPOOL. So take your pick...Wilfridselsey (talk) 21:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

question #2 - London
The listing for Edward Elliott Everett says he boarded the ship in London. Obviously an error. Anyone know if it was Southampton or Belfast? Elsquared67 (talk) 08:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * They had special "boat trains" that ran from London Waterloo directly to where the ship was berthed at Southampton. See https://titanicboattrainheritagetrust.org/titanic-boat-train/ for more detail. Wilfridselsey (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)