Talk:Criminal-justice financial obligations in the United States

Refs
G M G talk  13:13, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * http://www.clerkofcourt.maricopa.gov/criminalfinancialobligations.asp
 * https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/wiener/programs/criminaljustice/research-publications/executive-session-on-community-corrections/publications/shackled-to-debt
 * https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/centers/wiener/programs/pcj/files/shackled_to_debt.pdf
 * https://nicic.gov/shackled-debt-criminal-justice-financial-obligations-and-barriers-re-entry-they-create
 * https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/centers/wiener/programs/pcj/files/shackled_to_debt.pdf
 * https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/249976.pdf
 * https://appam.confex.com/appam/2016/webprogram/Session7450.html
 * https://www.uj.ac.za/faculties/law/Documents/Criminal%20Just.pdf
 * http://www.icjia.state.il.us/assets/articles/CJFO_Appendix_A.pdf

Wall of Text for Criminal Fines and Errors
It's about criminal fines.

Notice: "involvement" is used rather than "processed through the court system".

"Involvement with criminal court system" includes judges and lawyers and other employees. It would be difficult to decipher if you didn't know it was about criminal fines, why the editor is avoiding the word "process" as in due process.

He was trying to tie it into civil and administrative asset forfeiture. He really shouldn't be allowed to edit subjects he doesn't really know or perpetrate fraud.

Civil and Administrative Asset Forfeiture violates 5th Amendment Due Process. Seizing property without even charging the owner with a crime, thereby not even proving property was involved with a crime. This means the government officials skipped out on Due Process, which is unconstitutional and unlawful. The editor tried to tie Criminal Justice Justice Obligation to civil asset forfeiture to give the illusion it was somehow legal.

It was corrected in the past and reverted back to an almost indecipherable wall of text.

73.225.182.47 (talk) 00:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC) Tae Hyun Song 73.225.182.47 (talk) 00:50, 6 December 2021 (UTC) Tae Hyun Song