Talk:Culture of California

Devoid of Native American Culture
I believe Culture of California is the more typical title format. Tuf-Kat 05:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC) The California Courts website reports: "According to most recent census data, California is home to more people of Native American/ Alaska Native heritage than any other state in the Country. There are currently 109 federally recognized Indian tribes in California and 78 entities petitioning for recognition. Tribes in California currently have nearly 100 separate reservations or Rancherias." Nowhere in the Culture of California article is there an acknowledgement of the original people of this territory or the living languages, cultures and traditions that have historically contributed to the culture of California, and continue to exist in California today. O.B.174.66.169.189 (talk) 19:21, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Major work needed

 * I think the old article was better. The new one has serious tone and original research problems. Mike Dillon 15:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The page has been moved to Talk:Culture of California/archive since pages like that don't belong in the main article namespace. Khatru2 05:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

family is what culture is about and all the families in that state that form the culture[ stephanie hidalgo 14 year old girl}

there is a line about the "34th governor of california and 42nd president of the united states, bill clinton" embodying the liberal climate of california.....what's all that about? Pat Brown [governor #34] isn't even mentioned. 64.14.248.62 (talk) 01:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Major California cultural values missing from this article: 1) lack of hunting culture/bans on hunting specific animals and hunting restrictions in general 2) animal welfare/pets as children/ vegetarianism and veganism based on animal rights philosophy missing in many other states  3) gun control culture   4) emphasis on diversity and multiculturalism especially in Los Angeles area 4) tolerance and acceptance of LGBTQII  5) huge religious diversity not generally prevalent in other states that includes religions started in India, Tibet, China, and Japan (eastern religions) and also including very large percentage of non-religious -- unlike other states where one religion or a couple of Christian denominations predominate  6) culture of early adoption of innovation -- the first freeways, for example, the first of other things, the tech innovation   I'm sure there are more -- this becomes a more important article as cultural differences between US states become more pronounced especially politically -- I hope it is re-written  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.156.180 (talk) 22:02, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

"NorCal/SoCal" divide
The article states that this is a major aspect of every Californians social life, I find no evidence that this is the case. It seems more of a young high schoolers mentality than anything. I request that this section be deleted, or expanded with evidence.Chewrockan (talk) 21:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not exactly what the section says, but your point is still valid. Without sources, the section is unsubstantiated and difficult for people outside of California to understand.  Although it is simply a matter of territorial and political identification, you are welcome to remove the section, place it on the talk page, and request sources.  I'll try and help out when I have free time. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Political Northern/Southern Divide
The article claims that the south is more conservative and the north is more liberal leaning. I feel that this is an oversimplification of "left/right" in the US. I believe that there should be a year we point out when that shifted to be opposite (due to the whole southern voting strategy thing that turned confed states into right leaning and as a result once-conservative states became known as left-leaning) AnotherToast (talk) 09:36, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Unsourced material
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 * information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 03:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Regions
Silicon Valley, Bay Area, Etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.168.137.97 (talk) 00:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Music re-organisation
I re-organised the music sectino into Genres and Bands, I listed all the genres that orignated in the state but wasn't able to come up with bands for each one. I also undoubtedly made mistakes and omissions, e.g the 'Rock' category.

These bands were previously listed but I don't know what genre they play in, so I'll put them here in hopes that someone else knows more or has more time than me to organise them.

California is also the origin of countless modern popular music groups and singers, including 30 Seconds to Mars, Agent Orange, Avenged Sevenfold, Big Brother and the Holding Company, Blue Cheer, Buck Owens, Buffalo Springfield, Cake, Death Angel, Dokken, Eazy-E, Exodus, Forbidden, Great White, Iron Butterfly, Jan and Dean, Merle Haggard, Minutemen, Pavement, Possessed, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Quiet Riot, Ratt, Saint Vitus, Sly and the Family Stone, Social Distortion, Stone Temple Pilots, Tesla, Testament, The Grateful Dead, The Runaways, The Surfaris, The Vandals, Tower of Power, Vio-lence, and X. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.61.64 (talk) 22:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Beach Culture
I added a new paragraph in beach culture talking about how surfing influenced the "beach culture" that California is so often associated with. I thought it was important because California is essentially the birthplace of beach culture and surf culture. Also added a few sentences to the paragraph as well as some minor edits. Let me know what you think. thanks

Melting Pot
The sentence in the beginning section which identifies California as a "true melting pot" contradicts the previous statements about the multi-cultural nature of California. Even if allowing for a very broad definition of "melting pot", this is just not true of California. The ideal of a melting pot is a movement from heterogeneity to homogeneity. Isn't it more the case that California is made up of a variety of cultures? We don't melt together in an indistinguishable mass, but sort of stick together like stained glass. It's more about multiculturalism than assimilation. California, unlike the East Coast, has less social pressure of conformity, less pressure to use English-only accommodations, etc.. If the "melting pot" analogy is true of any place in the United States, it's not in California.

169.231.35.176 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:56, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

More sources needed.
More sources are needed in all parts of the article.73.93.155.7 (talk) 21:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

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First two music paragraphs are confusing to the reader
The first paragraph reads: "The guitar was the instrument that the Mexican state of Alta California chose and two composers for the instrument are represented in the collection. Manuel Y. Ferrer's were collected in a book of 144 pages, called "Compositions and Arrangements for the Guitar" published in San Francisco in 1882, then reprinted in Boston by Oliver Ditson in 1915. Many of his pieces appear in the sheet music collection. An additional Californian artist, Luis T. Romero is represented by his 1889 arrangement for guitar of La Paloma by Yradier." I am very confused by what is going on here. What was the guitar chosen for? What collection are we talking about? Manuel Y. Ferrer's what? Do we care about the Boston reprinting of Mr. Ferrer's book? What sheet music collection? This whole paragraph is really messy and confusing. I don't know what the sheet music collection is, and it seems that the first clause of the first sentence is almost totally unrelated to everything else in the paragraph. I think we have to either rewrite this for clarity or possibly delete it and the following paragraph, as neither seem connected to the third paragraph, which lists genres of music that originated in California. If I'm way out of line please tell me so. Roseyclean (talk) 18:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)