Talk:Curonian colonization of the Americas

language
Language at the time was (Lower) German, definitely not Latvian. Joostik (talk) 13:02, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Is there any trace of Latvian vocabulary in the creole spoken om Tobago today? Pete unseth (talk) 22:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Merge
Perhaps this should be merged with the Courland colonization article? -82.11.96.31 (talk) 13:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, but the demonym is still "Courish". You don't say "the England colonization of the Americas" and "the Courland colonization..." is the exact same (incorrect) construction — LlywelynII  17:44, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Population
The statement "Courland had a population of only 200,000, mostly of German and Scandinavian ancestry" seems wrong to me. The other wikipedia pages (English, Lithuanian) say that it had a population of 619,154 in 1870, mostly Latvian peasants. The Latvian page says population was 200 000 in 1794. Tripled in 80 years? Mainly German? I am confused.
 * Looks like it should be 407,000. Rmhermen (talk) 03:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What about the nationalities: "mostly of German and Scandinavian ancestry"? Where are the Latvians gone? Were they considered non-citizens? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.60.14.188 (talk) 09:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Title
Hm... Actually, it looks like the subject is obscure enough people don't really know what to say. Google books suggests a few present-day writers use phrasing like Colonization by Courland and just avoid the issue. Apparently, the original demonym was "Curonian", "Courish" and "Courlandish" became more popular in the 18th and 19th centuries, and now people are starting to go back to "Curonian"... — LlywelynII  18:53, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Running the numbers for the following at Google Books & Scholar (with -wiki -wikipedia -spit -lagoon):
 * Courish colonization 15 & 4
 * Courlandish colonization 8 & 4
 * Curonian colonization 125 & 49
 * Couronian colonization 566 & 31

So definitely needs another move. Since WP:COMMONNAME prefers the most common use over pedantically correct and the scholars aren't 100% behind "Curonian", I'll go with the extra "O". — LlywelynII  19:06, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * "Curonian" (with only one 'o') seems to more often refer to the older tribe that inhabited the area which the Duchy of Courland would later exist on (and, arguably, evolved out of). Therefore, any of the other options (with two 'o's) are probably better choices, with no obvious right or wrong answer. FrunkSpace (talk) 02:13, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I would say it's either "Courland" or "Curonia" - the first a Germanic name, the second a Latin one. It's the same name in many other languages. "Couronian" just looks bizarre. H2ppyme (talk) 20:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Or go with "Courlander". Guettarda (talk) 22:03, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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