Talk:Cusack

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This entire page is a mess, the author of this page should clean it up, make the text meaningful, explain the text on this page or delete most of it. As it is, the article is worthless and very confusing. (Comment posted by RedmanToby (talk | contribs), April 13, 2008)


 * I've restored the above comment after it was deleted by another editor. While its tone may be intemperate, a glance at the state of the article at time of posting will confirm its general accuracy. --Yumegusa (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Copyvio removal
In the section "Famous historical Cusacks", the entire paragraph beginning, "During the period of Catholic resurgence under James II" is a direct copy from p.108 of Irish Families: Their Names, Arms, and Origins, by Edward MacLysaght (Figgis, 1972), so I've removed it.--Yumegusa (talk) 23:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * More. The paragraph beginning "The first Cusacks, Geoffrey and Andre de Cusack" is also a direct copy from the same page of the above book.--Yumegusa (talk) 00:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * And more. The paragraph beginning, "Although the Cusacks are not closely associated" is a direct copy from p.109 of the same book, and has now been removed. --Yumegusa (talk) 22:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Major cleanup
I have radically edited this article which in its earlier state was a calamity. The "Famous historical Cusacks" section remains problematical. I have had difficulty finding references via Google Books or the web to provide any support for the list items, which begs the question just how 'famous' they are. I will continue to dig, but if nothing has been found within 2 months I will delete the section, and whoever can provide references may remake it. All assistance -if anybody's watching- greatly appreciated. --Yumegusa (talk) 21:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal
Both articles talk about the Cusack family. Sole Soul (talk) 21:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Support --Yumegusa (talk) 23:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Might I suggest that this piece on Cusack have the de Cusack contrubution merged with it to give more content and info to it. What are your views? C.Cleeve (talk) 11:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I SUPPORT the merger. C.Cleeve (talk) 12:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I did a full-content paste merger, needs cleanup. Sole Soul (talk) 03:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sole Soul, Thank you for doing the merger. I (and I'm sure that I can include Yumegusa) appreciate your help in that. I will see about a sorting a cleanup however am still awaiting clearence to include photographs etc. Once again thanks for your invaluable assistance.C.Cleeve (talk) 10:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's my pleasure. What do you mean by clearance? Sole Soul (talk) 10:59, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sole Soul, What I mean by 'clearance' is that I have written to the Author and the Society of the publications I've referenced for permission to reproduce pictures from the publications to illustrate the piece - the castle, a map & Sir Tom's 4 Stones. Regards C.Cleeve (talk) 19:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

IMAGE UPLOADING
Hi Sole Soul when I last messaged you, months ago, I was off to seek permission for the use of the images. Have got OK for all eight and started to upload them - the first one to see if it worked! I thought that I'd got it right as 'deCusack_Sign.jpg' appeared on Wiki. I then edited 'Cusack' and put in but while the words appeared there was no photo above it. Tried to find the image again but could not, so reloaded it found 'it' was still there (where ever 'there' is). Tried again without success. Saw the message which appears not to like the clearence I'd given. Have not tried to upload any more till I find the answer. Can you are others advise? C.Cleeve (talk) 16:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1. Get the name right - you have Jpeg in the link it should be jpg (and watch the case J is not that same as j)
 * 2. It got deleted - 17:01, 1 November 2010 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry deleted "File:DeCusack Sign.jpg" ‎ (F3: Media file with improper license)
 *  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Image message from its history
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If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Thanks for the help. I'll try and get it right next time - possibly tomorrow! C.Cleeve (talk) 17:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you - Sole Soul and RonhJones also Wikipedia - for your help and guidance in enabling me to share a few facts about that original Norman Knight, Geoffrey and his early Irish decendants, with his Worldwide Cusack family of today. I hope that those, who bother to read it, will find something of interest in it. C.Cleeve (talk) 15:31, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Crest & Location of Aquitaine
The location of Aquitaine in the picture is, I believe, incorrect. Aquitaine is in the south west of France, not as centralised as shown in the image. Also I believe there needs to be more reference towards the Cusack crest as there is a more common and widely used version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paddy Eire (talk • contribs) 07:51, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Aquitaine is a large area. Viewing the current map and the map from Cussac, Haute-Vienne at the same time, is not easy, as one is a representation of France and the other a true map - some 9deg rotation of this map is required and a bit of non-linear stretch - then Cussac, Haute-Vienne, is just (but only just) above the red square - a reasonable agreement. In any case any dispute of the picture must be held at the picture's talk page, not here.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Location, Crest & Epitaph Update
Thank you for your observations. Ref the position on the map of 'cussac' and 'Aquitaine' (by association) if you clk on the map and on talk 'Tomcusack' you will see that the map was produced in 2007 and that I had requested a correction in 2010. The Mermaid Crest is that which appears on the stones of circa 1571 and in the references shown. I'd be interested to see the evidence (earlier if possible) of the 'more common and widely used' version. Please add to the article this other one and where/when recorded etc. Ref the request for a citation against the Epitaph - I thought that the citation in 'Stone No 4' and the reference to Prof.R.M.Gwynn's translation was sufficent. However if further proof be needed the research papers of the historian E.Hickey are archived in Trinity College, Dublin and I can ref these if required. Your comments and advice are welcome. C.Cleeve (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

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