Talk:Daily Kos/Archive 3

Updated edits to Daily Kos page
Daily Kos is a group blog and internet forum focused on the Democratic Party and liberal American politics.

Updated edits are below.

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Guest bloggers: The guest bloggers in 2015 are incorrect -- these were all Daily Kos staff and not Contributing Editors: "2015: Josie Duffy, Thandisizwe Chimurenga, Vann R. Newkirk II"

Your comment/assessment of the above is correct: "There are three labels being used in this portion of the edit request: (1) guest bloggers, (2) DailyKos staff, and (3) contributing editors. Which categories the individuals named here fall under is unknown, but what can be surmised from these descriptions is that while all guest bloggers and DailyKos staff are contributing editors, not all contributing editors are guest bloggers or DailyKos staff. Please advise if this is correct."

Same section also has outdated (or incomplete) info on Armando, not mentioning the fact he returned for the second time in 2011 and has remained an active member of the site since: "For two months, Armando would resurface periodically, and all of his comments were accompanied by a signature line stating that he would be returning to blogging in December 2006. Armando did indeed resurface, albeit under a user ID, "Big Tent Democrat," in September 2006. Armando "Big Tent Democrat" then left the Daily Kos site again in March 2007, citing "differences with the Management."

Edited below to accurately reflect state/outcome of lawsuit. It should say:

"Daily Kos had previously partnered with Research 2000 to produce nonpartisan polling for presidential, congressional and gubernatorial races across the country. In June 2010, Daily Kos terminated the relationship after finding that the data showed statistical anomalies consistent with deliberate falsification and announced its intention to sue the polling firm.

On November 30, 2010, an agreement to a settlement began as lawyers for the Plaintiff filed a status report indicating that both parties were “in agreement as to the contours of a proper settlement but are still in the process of determining whether the execution of the proposed terms is feasible." In May 2011, The Huffington Post reported that Research 2000 pollster Del Ali agreed to settle the lawsuit and make payments to Daily Kos. In July 2012, however, a default judgement of over US$350,000 was entered against Ali. It indicated that he had repeatedly failed to make payments, and ordered him to do so. "

The "funding" section is outdated and no longer correct: "It is financially sustained by advertising, with Google AdSense and Blogads. [...] The site also offers an ad-free subscription to members."

It should say: "Daily Kos is financially sustained through lead generation, sponsored content, fundraising, and donations from readers and supporters who have signed up to receive joint petition emails from Daily Kos.  The site also offers an ad-free subscription to members. "

Meow panda (talk) 15:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for making the necessary changes to (a) the ref tags, (b) the citation style, and (c) the clarifications offered. One step remains: (d) the requesting editor has not disclosed the nature of their COI. If the editor is being paid to request these edits, that needs to be disclosed here on the talk page. This may be done by adding either the ' template or the ' template to the top of the talk page, just under the existing talk page header boxes. More information on this requirement may be found at WP:DCOI. Please note : This should be the final hurdle that needs to be passed before the requests can be implemented. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the  template's answer parameter to read from yes to no. Thank you! Regards, Spintendo  22:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Just did so.

Meow panda (talk) 17:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The template is not filled out correctly. Instructions can be found at Template:Connected contributor. A disclosure should also be placed on your own talk page. Spintendo  20:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Reply 12-APR-2019
Regards, Spintendo  22:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) ✅ A footnote and Notes section was added explaining the 2015 editor's roles.
 * 2) ✅ The phrasing with regards to the lawsuit was modified as requested.
 * 3) ❌ The claim regarding Del Ali's payment delinquency was not added, as a failure to pay is a separate issue from the original agreement to pay.
 * 4) ✅ The financing was added.
 * 5) ❌ The details regarding a member's option for non-exposure to advertising was omitted, as this detail is not germane to sources of finance.

Section on Daily Kos political activity
The section on political activity, as it stands now, either contains outdated/irrelevant information.

I recommend deleting this paragraph, as it does not seem needed in light of the updated information: Apart from its activities as a blogging, news, and general digital media platform, Daily Kos has taken decisions placing it in the category of politically active corporations. For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont". OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."

I have provided more information on Daily Kos elections work that should make this section more up-to-date and informative. Please see below.

Daily Kos is a political organization. Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest. Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email. Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures. The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.

The Daily Kos Elections team also routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.

Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.

Meow panda (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Reply 20-APR-2019

 * It is unclear what changes are requested to be made. For requested changes to be crystal clear, the verbatim text which will be affected either though an addition or a deletion should be delineated. Please do this by stating your desired changes in the form of "Change x to y using z".

 Example edit request:  Please change: to read as: using as a reference:
 * "The Sun's diameter is 25 miles."
 * "The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles."

Additionally in the case of this request, please state the policy or guidelines which support removal. Kindly open a new edit request at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed. Regards, Spintendo  15:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Section on Daily Kos political activity (modified)
The section on political activity, as it stands now, either contains outdated/irrelevant information.

Please delete:
 * For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont". OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."

Reason: This information has some connection to the article, but it is neither significantly relevant or succinct due to use of a lengthy quote.

I have provided more information on Daily Kos elections work that should make this section more up-to-date and informative. Please see below.

Please change:
 * "Apart from its activities as a blogging, news, and general digital media platform, the Daily Kos has taken decisions placing it in the category of politically active corporations."

to read as:
 * "In addition to being a blogging, news, and digital media platform, Daily Kos is a political organization." - This is a more succinct description.

Please add:
 * Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest. Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email. Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures. The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.
 * The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.

using as a reference:
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Please move:
 * Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

to be in same paragraph as:
 * Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.

Meow panda (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Reply 3-MAY-2019
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo 17:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Request edit
Please add:


 * Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest. Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email. Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures. The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.
 * The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.

using as a reference:
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Reason: To better inform readers about what types of political work Daily Kos does specifically, particularly re: elections.

Please delete:
 * For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont". OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."

Reason: This information has some connection to the article, but it is neither significantly relevant or succinct due to use of a lengthy quote. The candidate mentioned in this quote is not well-known; readers might better understand the impact of Daily Kos' work with the examples of the individuals listed below alone (Hillary Clinton and Jon Ossoff). It seems the paragraph below achieves the same purpose as this quote without being lengthy. If you do not recommend removal of this section, I believe it is better suited to join the paragraph mentioned below, about the endorsements of Clinton and Ossoff.

Please move:
 * Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

to be in same paragraph as:
 * Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.

therefore, to read as:
 * Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.

Reason: To put similar information in the same paragraph.

Meow panda (talk) 20:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Reply 9-MAY-2019
Regards, Spintendo  13:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) ❌ The request to add information regarding the "ongoing updates and analysis on elections" was not added, as the reasons were insufficient.
 * 2) ❌ The request to delete information is declined for the same reason.
 * 3) ✅ The request to merge the sentences regarding Clinton and Ossoff fundraising was implemented.

Elections & fundraising
Please add:


 * Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest. Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email. Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures. The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.
 * The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.

using as a reference:
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Reason: To better inform readers about what types of political work Daily Kos does specifically, particularly re: elections, by explaining the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by Daily Kos staff that are circulated to thousands of readers on a daily or weekly basis. This provides a more in-depth understanding of what specifically Daily Kos does around elections, aside from endorsements and fundraising.

Please move:
 * For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont". OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."

To join:
 * Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.

Reason: I believe it belongs with the mentions of endorsements of Clinton and Ossoff, as that entire section is about endorsements and fundraising.

Therefore, to read:

Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos. In April 2017, the New York Times reported that James Thompson, the Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont". OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."

Meow panda (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The reasoning in the first part of the request does not state what it is about explaining the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by Daily Kos staff which provides for a more in-depth understanding of Daily Kos's work. The second part of the request is already implemented. Spintendo  18:49, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add:


 * Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest. Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email. Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures. The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.
 * The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.

using as a reference:
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
 * "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Reason: To better inform readers about what types of political work Daily Kos does specifically, particularly re: elections, by explaining the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by Daily Kos staff that are circulated to thousands of readers on a daily or weekly basis. The newsletters keep track of various candidates and their opponents in state-level races, endorsements they have received, from whom and how they are fundraising, and past positions they have held on various issues or votes they have taken on specific bills. They also announce political endorsements that Daily Kos has made. This provides a more in-depth understanding of what specifically Daily Kos does around elections, aside from endorsements and fundraising.

Meow panda (talk) 20:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

This newer request does not state what it is, about "explaning the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by DailyKos staff" that "keep track of candidates and their opponents in state-level races, endorsements they have received", etc., which provides for a "more in-depth understanding of Daily Kos's work" — which was the initially given reason for making this change by the COI editor on May 10th, 2019. Specifically, what is it about those explanations which provide for a "more in depth understanding". A useful tool would be to list and compare the understanding which is already provided by the standing version of the article's descriptions of these items (i.e., the first sentence of the 17th paragraph: the claim that DailyKos is "a blogging, news, and digital media platform") as compared to the more in-depth understanding provided by these enhanced claims. Please advise. Regards, Spintendo  07:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Addition of information: Civiqs
Please add to the section "Nonpartisan polling":
 * In March 2018, Markos Moulitsas launched Civiqs, a nonpartisan online polling and analytics company that conducts public opinion research by polling a nationally representative online survey panel on a daily basis. Daily Kos commissions monthly polls through Civiqs.

Using as a reference:
 * Smith, Ben. "The Founder Of Daily Kos Just Launched A Massive New Polling Project". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
 * "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
 * Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

Reason: To add information that Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas founded his own polling and analytics company, and to explain the relationship between Daily Kos and Civiqs.

Meow panda (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Please elaborate on why it is necessary to mention that one company Mr. Moulitsas has founded commissions monthly polls through another company which Mr. Moulitsas has founded. Also, if you could provide a source for this claim which is not connected to Mr. Moulitsas himself. Please advise. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the request edit template's answer parameter to read from ans=yes to ans=no. Regards, Spintendo  19:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Under that reasoning, perhaps adding it to Markos Moulitsas's article would be more appropriate? Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 19:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This claim has already been added to that article, in July 2018. Regards, Spintendo  19:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)