Talk:Daisy Douglas Barr

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When I started this entry on Daisey Douglas Barr on 8-11-05, I used Temperance Movement Groups and Leaders as the source.David Justin 02:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Wham- When I started this entry on Daisey Douglas Barr on 8-11-05, I used Temperance Movement Groups and Leaders as the source.Thanks.David Justin 18:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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David Justin / Dr. David J. Hanson. You have been persistently been spam linking to your sites mainly using sock puppets such as those blocked in this case: Suspected sock puppets/David Justin (2nd).

You claim that the page you created on 8-11-05 is based on http://www2SPAM.potsdam.edu/hansondj/Controversies/1124913901.html However, if we examine the page using the Waybackmachine http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/Controversies/1124913901.html, we find that at February 14 2006, http://web.archive.org/web/20060214182339/http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/Controversies/1124913901.html this page does not mention Daisey Douglas Barr at all.

You appear to have copied the text from Wikipedia more or less verbatim into your own page some time during February 2007 and you are now passing off your page as the original source!

Did you really think your sleight of hand wouldn’t be found out? It is hardly likely to enhance your reputation as an academic. Wham Bam No Thank You Spam 08:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The source
Hi Wham- With only the title and date changed, the observation of respected editor John Broughton says it well:
 * May I point out that the text that was "copied" into the potsdam.edu page was created by User:David Justin on September 10, 2005, and that contributors to Wikipedia retain the copyright over their own contributions. You're not really accusing Dr. Hanson of plagarizing himself, are you?  -- John Broughton  (♫♫) 14:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.David Justin 00:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Additional source information
Hi Wham- Please note that the source of this Wikipedia entry is “National Prohibition of Alcohol in the U.S.,” from which the materials in bold were taken. Thanks.David Justin 01:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

'''Daisy Douglas Barr was Imperial Empress (leader) of the Indiana Women's Ku Klux Klan (WKKK) in the early 1920s and an active member of the Women's Christian Temperance Union (WCTU). Professionally, she was a Quaker minister in two prominent churches.'''

'''However, in 1924, the Klan charged that Rev. Barr "had amassed a fortune off the dues of Klansmen." Two years later, she was replaced in her leadership position in the WKKK by Lillian Sedwick who was a state official in the WCTU.'''

Sources
 * Hosmer, Dwight W. Daisy Douglas Barr: From Quaker to Klan "Kluckeress." Indiana Magazine of History, 1991(June), LXXXVII (2).
 * Lantzer, Jason S. Dark Beverages of Hell: The Transformation of Hamilton County's Dry Crusade, 1876-1936.

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"Ordained"???
Quaker ministers are never "ordained." They are merely "recorded." This is because Quakers (Society of Friends) believe only God can ordain a minister. Men are not God. So Mrs. Barr as a Quaker minister would be "recorded." This needs to be changed in the text. 2600:1015:B059:9DCF:C5E4:B4E2:3A61:F78A (talk) 10:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)