Talk:Darius Campbell Danesh

Cleanup
Lots of material repeated, sometimes in the same section (2002-04: Dive In and Dive In Tour). Don't have time to edit personally, but definitely in need of a clean.86.5.169.47 (talk) 10:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Reference
Far to over refrenenced... someone who cares should edit this...(RuSTy1989 21:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC))

Thanks, citations now edited. Scarlet7 13:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Recently & currently
We need to lose the "recently" and "currently" as we don't know when they were written. Secretlondon 10:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I've changed it to make it clearer. Scarlet7 13:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Gone with the Wind
Transferred, can you please explain your removal of this properly sourced, balanced and relevant material? Thanks. Badgerpatrol (talk) 15:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Badgerpatrol, personally I would say most of that is more relevant to the Gone With The Wind musical page, not on one of the actor's bio pages. An actor isn't the show so talking about the bad reviews of the production isn't relevant in my opinion, especially when this actor & other cast members actually received mainly positive reviews for their performances. If you feel it should be there perhaps you should add the same to all the other cast member pages as well ? Thanks Transferred (talk) 22:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's perfectly relevant. Can I suggest that, judging by your remarkably narrow range of interests on Wikipedia, you may want to step back from the subject and view it objectively? Appropriate, balanced and sourced critical commentary is not to be excluded from Wikipedia biographies. Gone with the Wind, in which Danesh played the co-lead, was a massive turkey. It's perfectly appropriate and encylopaedically justified to mention that. This article is not an advert for the talents of this performer. Warren Beatty mentions Ishtar and Kevin Costner mentions Waterworld, and rightly so. Noticeably, Darius Danesh makes no mention of the episode from which the subject derives a large part of his notability - his cringe inducing, and universally ridiculed, performance on Popstars, which I believe led to his being placed in a "100 Worst Britons" poll, among other things. The article could certainly do with some expansion in a number of areas. I'll chip in and do my best. Badgerpatrol (talk) 15:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's any need to get personal here, I do view all subjects objectively and which ones I choose to edit are of no concern to you, thanks. We will have to agree to disagree on the original point, you think it's relevant, fair enough I'm not going to argue with you. I trust you are now going to edit the other cast members pages with the same information, what's relevant for one is relevant for all, wouldn't you say? I do agree with you that this article doesn't really touch on Popstars or Pop Idol, it can always be improved. I would say you do need to know the subject if you're going to edit it, so much has been repeated wrongly in the press over the years that it doesn't resemble the truth. Transferred (talk) 14:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Anything I contribute to this article will be fully sourced in accordance with Wikipedia policy, as I have demonstrated. Your editing pattern is significant in as much as it indicates that you are either a) A massive, massive fan of Danesh (by a quick count, something like 80% of your mainspace edits are related to him) or b) an acquaintance or a member of his management team acting in a commercial capacity (if he has a management team). Either way, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be editing the page, provided your edits are balanced and sourced. I commend you for not reverting my (let's face it, very brief) addition re the musical.


 * "I would say you do need to know the subject if you're going to edit it..."... I would say that I'll edit whatever I want to edit, provided my contributions conform to Wikipedia policy, but thanks for the advice. As you say, his participation in the reality shows, from whence he derives a large proportion of his notability, needs to be expanded considerably. All the best, Badgerpatrol (talk) 16:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Name change
I wasn't aware Darius Danesh changed his last name legally to Campbell. Wouldn't he just be using Campbell as a stage name? Lots of people use their mother's maiden name or grandmother's maiden name for a stage name. --CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 18:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * From the sources, it looks like it's just a new stage name and not a legal name change. Silly if you ask me. Anyway, the page was moved and I moved it back because of WP:COMMONNAME - I can't see people referring to him as Darius Campbell any time soon. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that's what I thought. I agree that it's a bit silly to change a name when you've already made a 'name' (pun intended) for yourself in the Industry. Even when some actresses get married, they rarely change their stage names, too, with the exception of Courteney Cox Arquette. That's the only example I can think of right now. --CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 22:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Samantha Janus and Kym Marsh are two examples I know of. Jada Pinkett did it the Courteney Cox way. But most female celebs stick with their maiden name as a stage name. Nothing to do with Darius of course. He's just done it for.... why did he even do it? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I've added more info about the surname change - it seems Campbell has always been part of his surname as it's double-barrelled with Danesh. Transferred (talk) 16:28, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting. It needs to be noted that he was recording as Darius Danesh, though, and is generally just known as "Darius". Maybe we should say something like "Darius Campbell-Danesh (born 19 August 1980) is a Scottish (half Iranian) platinum-selling recording artist, songwriter, and West End stage actor known professionally as...." and then list his other names. What do you think? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 02:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe the first name given should state Darius Campbell as that's the name he'll be known as now and in the future, as in "Darius Campbell (born Darius Campbell-Danesh, 19 August 1980 in Glasgow, Scotland) is a Scottish (half Iranian) platinum-selling recording artist, songwriter, and West End stage actor who was previously known professionally as Darius or Darius Danesh". Would that be better? Transferred (talk) 14:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I considered that as well, and I think it works. Throughout the article, we'd have to refer to him as Campbell. At the moment, he's refered to as Darius, which is incorrect as Wikipedia uses last names. But he's more widely known as Darius Danesh. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Campbell throughout the article should be ok I think as long as the name change is mentioned at the start and explained in the personal life section. Transferred (talk) 15:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I notice it's been moved back to Darius Campbell. As was mentioned above I think as per WP:COMMONNAME that it should be at the more widely known Darius Danesh. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:18, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably. It would match his discography, and other articles such as Colourblind (Darius Danesh song), which definitely shouldn't be changed. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

It's a difficult one at the moment but I tend to think that it should now stay as Darius Campbell considering he won Popstar to Operastar and all recent press articles and publicity use that name and will do from now on. Transferred (talk) 10:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Darius Danesh
"Darius" is an Iranian name (Darius was an Iranian king) and "Danesh" is an Iranian word which literally means "Knowledge". Despite being born in America and to a white American mother, president Obama is commonly referred to as AFRICAN-AMERICAN (not even American-African!), so it's absolutely absurd to suggest Mr Darius Danesh is Scottish rather than Iranian-Scottish! The entire article is written in poor English and has no structure! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.200.91 (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to give his nationality, not his ethnicity, so either Scottish or British, unless he has dual citizenship. His ethnicity should only really be mentioned if it is relevant to his notability. See Manual of Style (biographies). Even if both his parents were Iranian, it would still be the case. The origin of the name has nothing to do with it. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Since his father is Iranian born, he automatically acquires Iranian citizenship. Unless he has renounced his citizenship, he would be Iranian-Scottish. (talk) February 1, 2011 @ 8:48am Eastern Standard Time.
 * Do you have a source that says he has dual citizenship? – anemone projectors – 16:26, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * He may have automatically acquire the right to Iranian citizenship but that doesn't mean he actually holds dual citizenship. JoshuaJohnLee talk softly, please 02:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Charity section
He presented Children in Need with Jackie Bird for a few years, is this worth of inclusion? 78.146.38.91 (talk) 02:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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Name change
Darius is changing his name from Campbell back to Danesh.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4370753/darius-danesh-campbell-pop-idol-name-change-dad-fathers-day/

--Eucalyptus21 (talk) 16:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Death
Lots of edits keep changing death date to August 16. As of current reports, August 16 is when the death was announced but per all reports, the actual death occurred on August 11 Toopac77 (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * https://news.sky.com/story/former-pop-idol-contestant-and-theatre-star-darius-campbell-danesh-found-dead-aged-41-12674526 Toopac77 (talk) 15:50, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2022
He sadly passed away on the 11th August not the 16th 90.203.119.1 (talk) 16:22, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The article already says that RudolfRed (talk) 17:13, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2022 (2)
He died on 16 August 2022 183.82.152.228 (talk) 16:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The statement was released on Aug 16, but he was pronounced dead on the 11th, according to the source cited in the article. RudolfRed (talk) 17:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * On multiple occasions the article has been edited to say that he died on the 11th. But we don't know the exact date he died on.  The sources merely state that he was "found unresponsive" with no indication of whether he was still breathing or his heart was still beating.  So he could have been still alive at that point and died at some point that day, or he could have died days or weeks before then.  We'll only know the exact date when and if a reliable source confirms it. — Smjg (talk) 19:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)