Talk:David Byrne/Archive 1

Picture
Is there a better picture available? The one now looks like a mannequin playing guitar; it's not really helpful. Bamos 02:30, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC) No kidding. It's lame. 69.157.0.206 02:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Better picture uploaded. Have a nice day. Mute hero talk 10:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Low quality Picture
we need to find a better quality picture.68.40.68.43 15:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Maryland
Something should be said about the incredible art scene in Maryland that David Byrne was influenced by, and grew up in, (that incuded his contemporary John Waters, among other notables). But then that would blow Maryland's role as a state that people are barely aware of !

Sean7phil 20:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Window XP Promotional use
I've again replaced the well-referenced use of Byrne's song with the release of a version of Windows Media Player. This distribution put the song in front of millions of people, and is not unlike a single release in this regard. I haven't heard complete reasons for removing the text outside of edit summaries, but if the text is removed again I think we should pursue a third opinion. -- Mikeblas 00:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Care to show me where in reference 1 or 2 David is quoted as saying "an achievment described by Byrne as "that moment in one's career that makes all of it worthwhile?" 199.185.10.23 19:49, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Like Humans Do - windows ME?
I'm pretty sure the song Like Humans Do was (at least first) bundled with Windows ME, not Windows XP.. can anyone verify? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.3.235.241 (talk) 05:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC).


 * It was Windows XP. I've added a reference. -- Mikeblas 15:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I had it included on my ME, guarenteed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.68.166.59 (talk) 08:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Church of SubGenius
I've got a few problems with it. First: I don't know if the source is completely legit (a lot of the other 'members' listed were done so in jest - how do we know he's not, too?). If it is legit, it still says that they haven't heard from him in awhile, is it fair to assume that he still identifies with the 'faith'?

If we think it all checks out, I don't know if it's worth putting in the opening paragraph. It brings up something uncommon in a paragraph that should give a cursory reader a basic idea of what they're dealing with. Saying that someone is 'Italian and Catholic' or 'Arabic and Muslim' gives me something that I can easily understand about their identifiers. Telling me that they 'believe in' a postmodern joke religion that I've never heard of doesn't help me much. Unless it's a large part of who he is (i.e. if he started the religion), I don't think it's worth mentioning until later in the article. K1da42 (talk) 18:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This 1999 article suggests that he was "excommunicated" over his True Stories film. Again, it's unclear what this might actually mean, if anything. --McGeddon (talk) 20:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to edit it out, at least until we can firm things up. K1da42 (talk) 17:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The citation is from a list created by Rev. Ivan Stang, who handles all membership issues for the Church. It doesn't matter whether the Church has "heard from him in awhile"; I'm sure the Vatican hasn't "heard from" a lot of Catholics. Unless you have some evidence to doubt the cited statement, you should not delete it. I will check into his status re: excommunication; if he was, I think it's even MORE notable! As to where in the article it belongs, that's another issue.Rosencomet (talk) 16:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I just mentioned a link that says he was "excommunicated" from the church in or before 1999 - that seems enough evidence to override Stang's Usenet post. The best these two sources give us is that "David Byrne was a dues-paying member of the Church in 1995, but was later excommunicated", which seems pretty minor, particularly when it's unclear how serious the sources are actually being (for all I know, one or both of these are an obscure joke based around something or other in the True Stories film).
 * It'd be good to have a source where Byrne himself actually says something about the church. --McGeddon (talk) 09:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The idea that David Byrne was "excommunicated" from the Church of the SubGenius is pretty ridiculous. As a dues-paid SubGenius I can attest that the Church has always implicitly assumed and/or encouraged excommunication. Therefore the issue is essentially meaningless and moot. Unless someone is really committed to it, I'm deleting the reference from the page.Atthom (talk) 09:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Spouses and Personal Life?
Why isn't there any info on the guy's personal life? Does he have a wife and kids? I had to click through to a couple of other articles to find that he was married to a Mrs. Lutz. This information should be compiled here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.160.157.121 (talk) 06:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Agree. --Westwind273 (talk) 04:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

IF Byrne isn't American, why all the American external links??
IF Byrne isn't American, why all the American external links?? He is NOT an American blogger, for instance. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 11:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Lazy
There is no mention of his more recent hit Lazy either here or on the Talking Heads page. I'd put something in myself but don't really know much about it --KayEss 20:20, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The article does mention Lazy, but I was hoping I could find out what that song is from, if it's on the soundtrack for a movie, or if it was played during an episode of a TV show. The song came on in the mall one day and I was singing along, but I have no idea why. Is there a way to find out if his song was featured somewhere? KannD86 (talk) 18:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Lazy made it to No. in the UK charts and Irish charts also?..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dingle77 (talk • contribs) 23:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

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he was born in Scotland!!!!
He is NOT american, he is 100% of SCOTLAND! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertrocker (talk • contribs) 16:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, the anon is right. Byrne is not a U.S. citizen, having evidently declined to become one . I shall remove the "American" from the intro. Pro hib it O ni o ns  (T) 23:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * And yet it currently says 'Scottish-born American' again. What does that mean unless it means someone who has taken US Citizenship, which it says elsewhere in the page that he hasn't? Removing 'American'. If you are considering adding again, please state the rationale here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happypoems (talk • contribs) 16:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * And you think that being born in Scotland makes Byrne a Scottish musician? I've removed "Scottish" from the first sentence. If you can find a reliable source that refers to Byrne as Scottish, and not Scottish-born, feel free to restore it. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with your edit as his nationality is a grey area and should be kept out of the lead. (Although I would think that a person born in Scotland, and becoming a British citizen through that birth, *can* be called Scottish)Happypoems (talk) 02:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Byrne does not consider himself an American but he is now an American Citizen. However I don't think I have ever recalled him claiming to be a proud Scotsman! Does he identify as Scottish and did he support the independence party? Byrne has been a fixture and influence on American music for a long time and began his career in NYC along with Blondie, the Ramones and a few others. He has spent most of his adult life in America and lives in New York city. So I think safe to say we can claim him as of our own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.178.162 (talk) 06:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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American?
The opening sentence refers to David Byrne as an "American musician", even thugh the article itself states that he was born in Scotland, then moved to Canada. Does this count as "American"? Calgary (talk) 22:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The opening paragraph says he currently lives in New York City. If he's an American citizen, then I think it's fair to call him American--especially considering that he was still a child when he left Canada. TheScotch (talk) 11:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

According to an email sent out today by Byrne encouraging Americans to vote, he has a green card, thus he is a legal resident of the US and not a citizen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.193.125.188 (talk) 17:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

In the article you state that DB chooses not to be an American citizen. However, the citation referenced - the Rolling Stone article - does not state this, nor does it explain the circumstances behind this choice. If his reasons for this choice are known, it would be helpful to have them included. Thanks. Moocoo (talk) 23:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Byrne considers himself a New Yorker. He is a U.S. citizen now but he views himself mostly as a New Yorker. His music career began there and he does most of his work there. To understand what that means you would have to live there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.178.162 (talk) 06:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Rolling Stone here says: :"Look at the people showing up at the polls, and it’s like 25 percent. It’s pathetic," he said in 2016. "I had British citizenship with a green card and I became an American citizen so that I could vote." But shouldn't we assume he also still holds his British citizenship? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Scottish born American? Scottish? American? Or Scottish-American?
Seriously someone needs to clear this up before a war begins I'm going with Scottish born American since he was mostly raised in Maryland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:144:C080:95D0:8456:973F:D0E3:DA0B (talk) 11:11, 12 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia relies on what reliable sources say. Most of them don't pay nearly as much attention to such trivia as Wikipedia editors do. I initially reverted your change because I had forgotten that Byrne became a U.S. citizen. But since he is a citizen, I think "Scottish born, American" is accurate. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:18, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Haven't edited anything on this page and I'm not planning to anytime in the near future, but isn't a little ridiculous to have like 30 "Scottish songwriter" categories when basically he was born in Scotland but wasn't raised there at all except when he was so young he almost certainly remembers nothing from it? He left when he was two to Canada, and not long after moved to America where he's always lived since. I don't think he's described himself as Scottish as opposed to his parents being from Scottish in any interviews. Maybe the fact that he was born there is enough justification to keep the categories, but it's a fairly weak connection indeed. --

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 * The article clearly says this:
 * Although a resident of the United States since childhood, Byrne was a British citizen until 2012, when he became a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and the United States."
 * This supported by two WP:RS sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:21, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Autism
there is no mention of the fact that he is autistic even though it is an important part of his biography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.85.46 (talk) 05:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

He isn't. 82.25.108.240 (talk) 10:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes he is. He has aspergers. I've read numerous articles on it but can't for the life of me remember where those articles are. If my schedule gets freed up, I'll try to find them and add some stuff in about it. Glassbreaker5791 (talk) 03:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

He 'diagnosed' himself with "...borderline Aspergers, I guess" when referring to his youth, which is discussed in this article here: http://www.davidbyrne.com/here_lies_love/press/1_29_07_Guardian.php - I would not say that it is grounds enough to state that he has the condition in the article, or elsewhere for that matter. Furthermore, his grounds for diagnosis are little more than recognising a few of the traits in himself in a recent study (also mentioned in the article) which he states have since disappeared as he has grown older. So a) he doesn't believe he has it now and b) he thought he was (at best) a borderline case when younger.


 * Byrne says he does have autism, specifically Asperger's Syndrome. It's not clear whether he was professionally diagnosed, though.  In case someone else has the time to take this source and update the article, more details about David Byrne's possible autism can be found at: https://www.autismkey.com/david-byrne-another-talented-indvidual-with-autism/
 * Some key points:
 * …in 2003, Tina Weymouth told the world that David Byrne had Asperger’s Syndrome (AS).
 * In 2009, David himself acknowledged that he in fact had Asperger’s and somewhat misguidedly believed that he was able to work it out through his music and as a result, subsequently no longer has it.
 * Dr. Tony Attwood… has referenced that functionality can improve in an individual with AS… but there is still no cure.
 * Dr. Tony Attwood… has referenced that functionality can improve in an individual with AS… but there is still no cure.


 * Tina Weymouth and Chris Frantz… unhappily conceded that [a Talking Heads reunion] just isn’t going to happen because David refuses, a fact they seem to blame on his autism.
 * Also see:
 * Reddit thread by Byrne: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/6ale5r/hi_im_musician_and_author_david_byrne_ask_me/
 * GQ article: https://www.gq.com/story/david-byrne-talking-heads-icon-profile
 * GQ article: https://www.gq.com/story/david-byrne-talking-heads-icon-profile


 * --Lance E Sloan (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

On the BBC Radio 4 series "Soul Music" on December 29 2020, when it was about Once In A Lifetime by Talking Heads, it was said that David Byrne was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. It was also said he found the diagnosis a relief. Vorbee (talk) 22:12, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

The south American artists music compilation albums he dids
Th 120.21.162.136 (talk) 05:42, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Books
Why aren't his books listed in this entry? 2600:8804:4100:2CD:99EC:2D23:8AF3:5B72 (talk) 06:37, 17 February 2023 (UTC)


 * David_Byrne There is a bibliography section. Are there additional titles you know of that could be added?JohnRussell (talk) 23:31, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Arbutus foundation / Reasons to be Cheerful
I'm overly busy at the moment, but this website/ newsletter should be noted for a future expansion of the article. From the About us page of the Reasons to be Cheerful website: "Reasons to be Cheerful was founded by artist and musician David Byrne, who believes in the power of approaching the world with curiosity—in art, in music, in collaboration and in life. Under the banner of Byrne’s nonprofit organization, Arbutus, Reasons to be Cheerful embodies this sensibility, applying it now to the future of our world. Through stories of hope, rooted in evidence, Reasons to be Cheerful aims to inspire us all to be curious about how the world can be better, and to ask ourselves how we can be part of that change."

Scarabocchio (talk) 12:03, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

heavy pettting
he was in a documentary in 1989 called "heavy petting" - i'd add it to the list myself but don't know how to properly format it Oliverwolfsacksstan (talk) 01:22, 24 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It's included in the table on "Other film and television" and has it's own article: Heavy Petting (1989 film). 86.187.173.18 (talk) 12:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)