Talk:David Kershenbaum

Comment
Please don't remove the article improvement tags until the issues the raise are addressed. This article needs reliable sources and could use a cleanup or copyedit. Dawn bard (talk) 22:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dawn Bard! I've noticed today that you tagged this article and thought that it is because we recently added names of 2 websites. Those names were deleted by us, after your "clean up" note and thinking that website names might not be allowed here? We undid you tag, but it appeared again and seems that the problem is with clean up and source? Please allow me to disagree with you because the text at this page is taken from reliable sources (different websites and interviews with David Kershenbaum) that are all over the internet and in press. If their is something that I am not aware of - please comment, I'll appreciate you help.(Natkersh (talk) 23:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC))


 * This article requires independent verifiable sources. As it stands now it seems to violate WP:OR. Please read WP:BIO.  Gtstricky Talk or C 02:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dawn Bard! Independent references and sources, as well as links were added to this article. Thanks for your improvement tags! (Natkersh (talk) 05:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC))
 * I have removed the peacock tag after an extensive clean (which was reverted by an LA based IP user). If this article is reverted again I will appeal for it to be locked as, even as it stands, much of it is cut and paste from Kershenbaum's own website. Eddie.willers (talk) 21:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Most of this article reads as a press release and is not encyclopedic in the least. It needs a good trimming to cut the excessive promotion.Vytal (talk) 14:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

ATTENTION TO: Eddie Willers, thanks for your input and there is a reason why your "Fixing" was removed. The changes that were made by you does not have any stylistic sense, especially where in every sentence you put "ALSO"..also...also...also... It looks very unprofessional and sure not an encyclopedic manner. Sorry to say that, I see that you've been trying to make improvements, but so far you make it look worse...NOT better. Nonsense, as you say, to put Duran Duran's member name in the article, is a part of the overall quote that makes sense. I do not see why you do not like a great quote where the member of the band describes Kershenbaum as a producer. On the contrary, in the info that was put by you or someone on your page "Eddie Willers is not a great man - but he is a good man. He is in the soul of every honest trader that seeks to interact with his fellows on a mutually benficial basis - without force or fraud." I find Extra Peacockary and Narcissistic. "Narcissistic - personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, need for admiration, extreme self-involvement, and lack of empathy for others. " Thank you for your input and time that you keep spending on this page; also for the threats, they were not taken friendly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.196.68.207 (talk) 20:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

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I am reposting a comment left by that I deleted in error attempting to restore the talk page. My apologies  Tide  rolls  19:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

David Kershenbaum's Wiki page - Request for Protection - Filed with Wikipedia. Some Readers/Editors Keep changing the page, making unprofessional edits and stylistic mistakes. This is not a place to play games. Thank you!
 * Comment. The Page Protection request made by User:Natkersh here was denied. Eddie.willers (talk) 02:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Concern Over Reversion
There have been many reversions made to this article by User:Natkersh and an anon. IP user. Despite tags being placed to call for edits that bring the article broadly into line with Wiki policies, attempts to comply with those tags have also been reverted.

I would like to express concern over the following:
 * User:Natkersh appears to be a WP:SPA for this article.
 * The user name would appear to suggest a familial connection to the article's subject. This would mean a conflict of interest as stated by WP:COI.
 * It has been noted that the article's text contains much that has been cut-and-pasted from David Kershenbaum's own website (such as from this page) - this is a violation of copyright unless prior permission is granted, which does not appear to be the case.
 * User:Natkersh has engaged in ad-hominem against other editors and seems unaware of the Wikipedia guidelines with regard to content, style and protocol.

At this point, I will cease to edit the article as there are more worthy subjects that require attention. Eddie.willers (talk) 02:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

CONCERN OVER REPEATED INTENTIONAL EDITS THAT User EDDIE.WILLERS KEEPS MAKING ON THIS PAGE, NOT TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE, BUT RATHER PERSONAL.
There have been many reversions made to this article by User:Eddie.Willers, who obviously playing edit wars on this page. The edits made by Eddie Willers were unprofessional or intended to look unprofessional. Continuous repeated actions of Eddie Willers make me think he personally knows the target of his attacks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natkersh (talk • contribs) 02:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Mr. Natkersh: Mr. Willers has been trying only to emend the article in good faith and without malice. He is playing no "games", nor is he making attacks. His edits have been professional and have improved the article.

I'm trying to do the same.

Vytal (talk) 04:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Respond
Mr: Vytal, to start every sentence with word "ALSO", does not look professional to me AT ALL! Moreover, I guess somebody over here has been making remarks about personal interest, let me assure you, Mr.Vytal'/Mr. Eddie.Willers, and probably disappoint as well, that I am not David Kershenbaum. I am sure he is way too busy and not interested to fight for the page about himself! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natkersh (talk • contribs) 06:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup
Much remains to be done with this article:


 * ref #2 does not support the statement


 * ref #5 is a wiki mirror


 * ref #6 is a forum, anyone can post information

Several statements need citations. The language could be improved. I removed some puffery, and some of the ridiculously large number of "also"s sued in the article. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 11:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ref #7 is a dead link

August 2010
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/duran+duran/biography.html is a Wikipedia mirror site and is therefore unsuitable to use as a source. Sorry. -- Diannaa (Talk) 18:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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