Talk:David Ogden Stiers/Archives/2017

Sexuality source
While reviewing the conversation above, and my close, I came across the following source where Stiers specifically says he is not gay. While certainly that is something that is consistent with being closeted, its more weight against accepting the blog source to the contrary, particularly as the reliability of this source is of a much better quality (but certainly not the gold standard). http://www.citypaper.net/articles/021397/article001.shtml "I was in New York when Stonewall happened and I had an extremely Midwest reaction: "Why don't those people shut up" [...] Are you gay? No, I'm not. But, I believe that we're all the same person differently expressed." Gaijin42 (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems trivia at best. At worst, it is a backdoor for assertions as to his sexual orientation. Collect (talk) 14:55, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe you misunderstood me, I wasn't presenting the source for inclusion in the article, merely as additional evidence that discussion above was resolved correctly and that his sexuality shouldn't be discussed at this time. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:06, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good find! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't know how this is done for wikipedia but when I google: “gay David Ogden Stiers” I get a lot of sources from May 2009 that says that he is gay (ABCNews, Today.com, daily telegraph). I will let others decide if the sources are credible or if being gay is worthy of being added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.184.66.81 (talk) 03:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Discussed at length four years ago. See Talk:David_Ogden_Stiers/Archives/2013. Read it and weep. If you find new sources, please provide links. Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   04:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

I do not have a dog in this fight. I read it and I didn't weep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.184.66.81 (talk) 04:51, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not just about sourcing from my perspective. We don't take special pains to note that Mel Gibson is straight. While Gibson's personal life is greatly detailed, and we can glean from well-publicized, prominent dalliances that he is heterosexual, if a subject keeps a low social profile and their sexuality is not a defining aspect of their public persona, I don't see why we would go out of our way to bring it up. Aside from keeping score on who is/isn't gay, what academic purpose would be served? When we draw special attention to "gay", we proliferate an archaic social expectation that gay deserves mention because it's the exception to the perceived "norm". I can't imagine most gay-friendly societies would consider that ideal. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)