Talk:De Havilland Venom

Uncertain
Uncertain why No. 60 Squadron under RNZAF heading - the RNZAF has never had a 60 Squadron. Can anyone clarify this?


 * I have no idea why and i've now deleted it. Thanks! SoLando (Talk) 11:56, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Aquilon?
The page has two translations for the French 'Aquilon' license-name. (North Wind and Sea Eagle) Someone who knows french language could confirm either one?


 * Only given as the Sea Eagle by Gunston, fixed and referenced. Nimbus227 (talk) 19:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Venom photo in opening para
Note to bzuk - the photo is a Vampire, whoever owns it! Clues - intakes are too rounded, 'Thick' wing, and lack of tailplane extensions. I will go find a decent picture of a Venom for you, and that can go in! HTH, Bruce —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucewgordon (talk • contribs) 06:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Bruce, you may be perfectly right, but check the source page for the photo below: [[Image:Vampire F3 restoration.jpg|thumb]]. The photographer has made a note that he is taking a picture of his father's Venom jet. FWIW Bzuk 06:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC).

Yes, I saw that - its not an aircraft I know, but 'looks' like it might be an ex Canada F3 Vampire. Whatever he says, its a Vampire!! Regards, Bruce Brucewgordon 06:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * A quick search around and it looks like Vampire F3 registered N6878D to Wings of Flight Incorporated, Rochester, New York (former Canadian 17072). MilborneOne 08:58, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, thats the one I though it was, but was checking my references. Thanks all! Brucewgordon 09:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what this means

 * ".....NF 2 night fighter........ To accommodate the necessary two man crew (pilot and navigator/radar operator) it was structurally different – the two crew were positioned side-by-side......"

But, they were in the Vampire as well. What does this mean?Moriori (talk) 21:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Not the clearest wording but it means different from the Mark 1 single-seat fighter which was before it. The two-seat Vampires were later I think but I have not got the dates handy. MilborneOne (talk) 22:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. The first two-seat Venom, the NF 2, was a Vampire NF.10 airframe fitted with an improved wing design. Incidentally, we don't say much about introduction of bang seats on Vampires, single seaters or duals. Maybe someone can oblige. Cheers. Moriori (talk) 00:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Terrorists
"They also saw much action in the Middle East, supporting operations against terrorists in Aden and Oman, losing some aircraft in the process." I note that a number of articles which refer to former British colonies speak of "terrorists". This is a weasel word, particularly in light of the various anti-colonial wars in various colonies. Using aircraft to bomb or strafe could also be called "terrorism". I would suggest that a more neutral term be found for this. An Muimhneach Machnamhach (talk) 11:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * They are termed 'terrorists' when they are operating contrary to the laws of the legal government (i.e., the Omani government) and without any formal or legal declaration of war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.53.180 (talk) 10:56, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

FB.4 stated with wrong engine
Just to mention the FB.4 mentioned in the article is using the wrong engine, the Pilot's Notes state it used the Ghost 103 (along with 2 other sources stating the same), I cannot confirm where the Ghost 105 part came from as I've only found records of it being used on the Sea Venom FAW.22 Here is a clip from the Pilot's Notes, if anyone wants the whole manual please let me know.

http://altimit.co.uk/10swf/Page_07.JPG

Sources are:

Venom FB Mk 4: 2nd edition A.P.4335D http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3310793

Aircraft of the Royal Air Force since 1918 by Owen Thetford pg. 235/236

The British Fighter since 1912 by Francis K Mason pg. 363

MizunoJames (talk) 18:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Updated the article to reflect the data from the sources above, if anyone has got info on where an FB.4 got a Ghost 105 it would be news to me as not found anything reliable that says it ever had one fitted.

MizunoJames (talk) 20:06, 25 September 2014 (UTC)