Talk:De Koningshoeven Brewery

I'd like to propose renaming this article to "Brouwerij de Koningshoeven", inline with the other trappist breweries, to reflect the native name. Any nay-sayers, comments? A major update of the text is also on its way. Riflemann 15:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I moved the article to the Dutch name. &mdash; goethean &#2384; 18:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it should be moved back. There should be a dutch page with the dutch name.  We dont have the "Germany" page under "Deutschland" so why should we be looking for Breweries under Brouwerij?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.169.81.252 (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * While I do not agree on a personal level, I think that the anonymous user has a point. I'd like to point out that all other trappist breweries have been moved to the English translations of their names as well, so for the sake of consistency, this should be moved back to "Koningshoeven Brewery".--Fogeltje (talk) 21:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

abv
Just sitting down enjoying a pint of Dubbel and thought I would find out a bit more about the brewery. I notice that Dubbel is listed as 6.5% ABV but the bottle I have says 7%. Perhaps it has changed recently? Tony 20:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Redirect proposal
The result was merge into DESTINATION PAGE. -- Mikebe 09:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC) As Quadrupel is no longer considered a style, but is rather the brand name of several beers, a separate article is no longer necessary. It was never considered a style in Belgium or the Netherlands and neither the BJCP nor the Brewers Association now consider it a style. The redirect should come here because this is the brewery that first made a beer with the name Quadrupel.

It is understood that there is some confusion about the term, primarily on commercial beer fan sites, however, as the role of Wikipedia is to explain and enlighten, giving the correct definition of the term is the correct way to deal with this confusion. Mikebe 11:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * disagree. This is unprecedented. Pilsener does not redirect to Pilsner Urquell. Style names may develop from brand names. "Quadrupel" is used in the brand names of US beers as well. The situation is fluid, so to speak. Allegations of "confusion" appear to be POV. 1Z 15:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Pilsener is a widely recognised style, quadrupel is not recognised as a style by anyone. That quadrupel is used in brand names means nothing more than it is popular as a name. "Allegations" of confusion? No, fact. Mikebe 13:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * agree. The Quadrupel article is just a stub and placement within this article will provide better context for the subject.  My stipulation is that the entire article should move, including all references to non-Belgium beer.  Mikebe, if you wish to merge it and remove all references to non-Begium use of the term or American/British confusion using some wikipedia policy, than I vote to keep it a separate article.Beakerboy 15:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * agree. There is no authoratative source that confirms Quadrupel as a widely-recognised beer style. As it is primarily a brand name of Koningshoeven brewery, a redirect seems prefectly reasonable.Patto1ro 11:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Disagree with User:Mikebe's and User:Patto1ro's agenda of cleansing Wikipedia of all American beer terms, or with the replacement of all external links with links to User:Patto1ro's website, which constitutes a serious conflict of interest. I don't see any other reason for merging the articles. &mdash; goethean &#2384; 18:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

That looks like 2 for and 2 against to me, how did that come to be a merge verdict? 1Z 09:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

My vote doesn't count? Mikebe 09:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Monk's Table Beer
The John White article does state that the Enkel was the nmonk's table beer after 1980. It goes on to say that Enkel was then made available commercially. And that Enkel was replaced by Blond in the commercial range. But it does not say that Blond replaced Enkel as the monk's table beer. John White is, in my opinion, a pretty reliable source in this context.Patto1ro (talk) 18:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * But you reflexively deleted the whole passage, and not the one word you are compalining about. Editors are supposed to edit. 1Z (talk) 18:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I was complaining about the assertion that the monk's table beer was the Blond wasn't substantiated in the source. Now the passage agrees with the source. I'm not trying to be nasty, just striving for accuracy, Mr. Jones.Patto1ro (talk) 18:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I am glad that you are striving for accuracy. Please note that hitting the undo button tends not to engender either improved articles of warm affection from the editors affected. 1Z (talk) 18:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice beer the Enkel, BTW. John's description of it is very good: like a weaker version of the Tripel. Just about two years since John died. A sad loss.Patto1ro (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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