Talk:Decathlon world record progression

Chuan-Kwang
Why is Chuan-Kwang's score listed at over 9000? AmericanLeMans (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * No, it's not a Dragonball reference; it's because it was that under the old scoring system. Under the current system, it's 8010. I double-checked newspapers of the period (in particular, an AP article on him published June 2, 1963), which confirms the listed old-style score of 9121. Mahousu (talk) 17:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Another thing: There is probalby mistake at 6th line of records: (8255.475 	6087 	Akilles Järvinen 	 FIN 	1930-07-20 	Viipuri[1]) because adjusted total of 6087 is lower than the previous record. 77.38.44.85 (talk) 09:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Akilles Järvinen's adjusted mark seems to have been miscopied from the cited source, which gives 6865. I fixed the list accordingly. Of course, this now makes it higher than the next adjusted score record, Jim Bausch's 6736, which makes me wonder if it also is a mistake. Absent another source, though, I'm not sure what else to do. Mahousu (talk) 17:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see the changes in the scoring system affected the balance of the different events; Järvinen's score in the current system would indeed have been higher than Bausch's. Mahousu (talk) 17:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Pictures
I notice the male record holder is prominently displayed at the top, while the female record holder is all the way at the bottom, looking orphaned from the page altogether. Surely the current female record holder is more notable than some former male ones so maybe she should be displayed more prominently (perhaps just below the image at the top?). 216.185.77.30 (talk) 12:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm all for equality normally. Considering the event is not a common event for women, while for the men it has been an Olympic medal event for a century, we cannot consider the event as equatable at this time.  Look at Heptathlon, where both genders have competition at the IAAF level (men indoors), but women are doing it at the Olympic level as their primary multi-event.  So women take the top and the men a small compartment at the bottom.  Wikipedia should and does reflect the appropriate level of importance.  Trackinfo (talk) 17:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Women's marks on men's table
I pointed out that since the women's throwing implements are lighter than the men's, the figure 6333 for Skujytė's marks using the men's tables is spurious. Someone thinks this is either editorializing or OR. What is the source for the original claim of 6333 points? I would think that is either trivia or OR and should also be deleted. jnestorius(talk) 07:28, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I've removed it. jnestorius(talk) 13:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Women's record
IAAF says the record is 6358, but Wikipedia 6366. . Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:54, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Jenner discussions
We have discussions about the policy going on at Village pump (policy)/Archive 121 and about the other usages of Jenner's identity at Talk:Caitlyn Jenner. There is a lot of discussion to read at both locations. Trackinfo (talk) 03:23, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Since Jenner is a woman, shouldn't she be removed from the men's list? Perhaps added to the women's list?

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bruce-jenner-im-woman/story?id=30570350 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.146.59.198 (talk) 21:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)


 * There was intense litigation above, 2 years ago. Jenner did not represent as a woman at the time of the performances.  Jenner was not entered in women's events and did not compete against women.  The IAAF and IOC reports Jenner's results under men.  This is not wikipedia's decision to report differently. Trackinfo (talk) 22:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

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Why nothing on pre-1922 Decathlon World Records?
Jsusky (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC) Qualified editors should consider extending this article back to the 1912 Olympic Decathlon - which was won by the great Jim Thorpe. It appears that there was a standard way to calculate the scores at the Olympics 1912-1928 (1916 was skipped during WWI).

In the Decathlon scoring tables entry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decathlon_scoring_tables

It states:

"The tables were soon updated with the 1912 Olympic records – and the universally disliked extension of event scores to three decimal places was discarded in favor of integer scores – and the tables were used thus in the next four Olympiads."

Content Disputes go here
This is where you can dispute the content in the article, not by trying to make edits which other editors have already reverted. EggRoll97 (talk) 18:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)