Talk:December

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—Yamara ✉  17:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * December means 10th month. Why 10th month?
 * Answer says because it came from the old Roman Calendar brought in by Romulus, Rome's founder and that had only ten months not 12.
 * Still why 10 months? The new calendar added two months to the beginning.  Jan and Feb.  Says earlier the winter months were not important as no farming took place in the winter.
 * A better answer might be found by examining the 1000's of things B G Tilak said in his "The Arctic home in the Vedas"
 * Tilak made exhaustive arguments on why the ancient Aryan's once lived in the polar region near the North Pole. He address's the Roman Calendar in particular as one of his arguments in Chapter VIII, The Cows Walk. https://archive.org/details/b24864882/page/188/mode/2up?ref=ol
 * The gist of the argument for this fraction of his argument is that like the Aryan's that moved to India, others eventually moved to Greece Italy and elsewhere.  At the very North on the pole, the sun takes a month to rise, followed by 4-5 months of Sun with out it setting and one month to set with the remaining time in darkness.  Basically 6 months dark, six months light minus month long sunsets and sun rises.  The users of this calender were not exactly at the pole so they saw two months of total night.  It's this two months that was not part of the calendar which is his argument.
 * Tilak wrote his book in 1903 and basically did not get much support outside a small group of academics (British Rule and Tilak being one of India's founders of independence/6yrs jail once and 18mos another time for being vocal about it), however science has been slowly catching up with him as it is realized the climate at the North Pole has not always been as it is today.  Tilak was also not the only one with these theories.  They are also outlined in William Warren's 1885 book "Paradise Found", but Tilak was exhaustive in setting out his theories and used ancient Vedic and Zoroastrian texts to back up his claims.
 * Tilak's theory really is the best answer, however there's such a long lapse of time on when ancient Aryan's had lived in the Artic according to his theory (appox 7000-8000 BC and before) Meanwhile the Roman calendar did not change to 12 months until appox 700 BC.  That is large gap to explain.  Were they always on the move when they left the artic regions and did no farming and had little need for knowing the cold seasons exactly?  Were the clouds too impenetrable during Jan and Feb to see the sun?  Don't know but this theory should earn a place like any other.  He calls it a remnant that the priests would not let go of, and finally when they did they likely had totally forgotten their ancient home when they finally settled in one place and had a need for a new calendar.
 * The Greeks also had what was called the Democratic or Citizens Calendar that was 10 months long existing alongside two 12 month calendrers as their earliest calendrers. It's claimed this was because of 10 tribes sharing the rule.  The argument seems flimsy.  Made some time before Tilak's theory was published.  Did they too add two months in during the cold period?  Allow that the 10 tribe theory is correct, you could still argue back why ten tribes?  Could this go back to 10 sets of priests that officiated the ceremonies sharing a month at a time to give homage to 10 months of Sun? Para59r (talk) 00:07, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Deleted Vedic etymology
"Dasa-Amber" is total nonsense. All the numbered months have Latin name origins. Dasa doesn't even mean 'ten' in Sanskrit (http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/).

You are surely a degraded person with a slavish mentality. The word is Dash....like you will pronounce it in Hindi. And why are these names similar to Sanskrit.....It is because all European languages are derived from Sanskrit.

Devoid of all self respect, you should not talk or pretend to be a learned person.

Fie on you!!!

Deleted from Events in December
Are any of these legitimate? They're all red links and the only google hits are from Wikipedia mirror sites:


 * Abaswanô (December 9)
 * Avonej (December 15)
 * Jajakna (December 24)

Jim Douglas 08:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Removed Critical Infrastructure Security and Resilience Month, as this is related to November and not December. https://www.dhs.gov/critical-infrastructure-security-resilience-month StephenDeloney (talk) 22:05, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

No references?
Any idea why this is here? Everything seems to be either self-evident or public domain, more or less. If no justification appears soon, I will delete the tag. --Mashford 15:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Multimedia Terms
There was a list of multimedia terms on the page that I reverted because they seemed to have no bearing on the subject of "december" 67.69.148.174 13:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Foreign language december's
Could we get translations on the foreign names for december? These listings are pointless without a translation. At least a transliteration of Georgian is in order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.27.154 (talk) 04:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

united arab emirates
shouldnt theyre unity date december 2nd be added here? yes? no? maybe?--PhantomLord581 14:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Birthstones
That's a long list of birthstones for December. As far as I know only blue topaz and turquoise are legitimate. At least they are all I found citations for. See. Can someone find citations for the others or can we remove them? --Kisholi (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Correction needed, I don't know how
On the "Months and days of the year" chart at the bottom of the page, as of this typing, it's claiming today is February 24, which is three days ago. I would fix it myself, but couldn't find the correct part of the page markup to do so. Seanette (talk) 01:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Open RfC related to this article.
See Talk:List_of_month-long_observances. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 02:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)