Talk:Denmark at the 2012 Summer Olympics

Disciplins versus sports
As it is now the different disciplins have their own subsections even though the danish athletes only compete in one of the disciplins in the sport, as in Equestrian where danes are only competing in Dressage and not the other disciplins, even so there is subsection instead of simply having the section named Equestrian Dressage. This is of course to see the special olympic difference betwin event, disciplins and sports. For how sports and discplins are divided in olympic sense (not always as in other sport situations) see Olympic sports.

If this article is going to keep its section and subsection system, and I think it should, then swimming cant be a section since swimming is not a sport at the olympics. It is one of four disciplins in the sport called Aquatics. In this disciplin (swimming) there is many events. So it should be a the only subsection under Aquatics just as Dressage is the only subsection under Equestrian. Jack Bornholm (talk) 09:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * A fair point, but it has long been the convention of WikiProject Olympics to split like this (a lot of IOC sources do as well) as readers are unlikely to know to look under aquatics rather than swimming/diving etc - Ba se me nt 12  (T.C) 09:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Why does the article Olympic sports dont do that? I am not a member of the wikiproject olympics, simply being a gnom on this. For a nation as small as Denmark it does have importance to be represented in as many sports as possible. On the other hand it does look weird with all the single subsection in section where the subsection is the only sport. The article would looke a lot nice layoutwise without all thes unnessary sectioning. Could a good compromise be to simply mention the disciplin in the section with the sport in brackets all the times where danes only compete in one disciplin in a sport.
 * Like this: Equestrian (Dressage) and Aquatics (Swimming)
 * Or the other way around like this: Dressage (Equestrian) and Swimming (Auquatics).
 * Right now it is hugely misleading to people like me that are very interested in the Olympic and the danish olympic movement but not especially in swimming. Jack Bornholm (talk) 09:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I really advise against changing headings to have the discipline or sport in brackets in the title, as I mentioned in the edit summary we use the current layout to try and be consistent across thousands of article in Category:Nations at the Summer Olympics. To reduce the clutter on the TOC it could be set to only include level 2 headers but that would mess up the links to the cycling section; perhaps if you really want to change this then you could use a heading in the style of " ;Dressage " under the main " ==Equestrian== " heading. - Ba se me nt 12  (T.C) 10:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I understand that there has to be some consistence in all the articles. Could you explain why with 26 sports and 39 disciplins that swimming has a special place in the wikipedia olympic system? I really cant uderstand why it is so with swimming but not with trampoline (just as an example). I find the olympic committees way of cutting up some sports into different disciplins and not others (as sailing being one sport and one disciplin despite the huge differences in the different events) but that is their right, they decided. But why do wikipedia make swimming special, and does diving also gets its own section and so on? Jack Bornholm (talk) 10:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Diving would indeed get it's own section (to see how things are normally split take a look at Great Britain at the 2012 Summer Olympics as the hosts are in every sport/discipline). The Official London 2012 website also splits out swimming into it's own section but keeps trampolining, dressage etc under their parent sports and that's the system we use (cycling and gymnastics go under one heading with subsections as all of them are titled e.g "cycling-discipline") -  Ba se me nt 12  (T.C) 10:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So sailing should get better lobbyists :) Interesting that Denmark at the 2008 Summer Olympics have swimming unde Aquatics and a quick peek into the history seems to indicated that this was done in 2008 and was kept (so then there must have been a general consensus on the subject since it was a change from the style of 2004). Did the Chineese have another wiev on swimming than the English have? Jack Bornholm (talk) 10:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it shouldn't be under aquatics, I'll move it now. In all honesty that entire page is a bit of a mess and needs work to bring it into line with the manual of style for these pages - Ba se me nt 12  (T.C) 10:33, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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