Talk:Deutscher Jugendliteraturpreis

Deutscher Jugendliteraturpreis
There's an article about this in the German Wikipedia (de.wikipedia.org). It should be translated into English. (I can't speak German). Ω Anonymous anonymous Ψ: &#39;&#39;Have A Nice Day&#39;&#39; 15:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've done as much as I can. strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  13:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I am currently reformatting this offline, as shown by the 1956-59 section. I will be gradually uploading sections as I progress. strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  14:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Assessment
It was requested that this article be assessed by the Children's Literature Project. At the time of this assessment the article was rated Start Class on the project's quality scale. It is felt that at this time it is C-Class on the project's quality scale, and has many B-Class article characteristics. The following specific recommendations are made:
 * Rewrite/omit the last sentence of the Lead section due to its outdated information
 * Update with 2009 winners
 * Format information into a table
 * As per the Manual of Style, add in English translations of titles where possible
 * Nominees are listed only back to 2003. If this reflects a change in the award's practice, it should be noted in the history section.
 * Inline citations are needed for award results before 2000

The following B-Class criteria were found to have been met:
 * The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
 * The article has a defined structure.
 * The article is reasonably well-written.

Any questions about this assessment are welcomed on my talk page.Barkeep49 (talk) 15:16, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Illustrators?
Are the awards in all categories conferred upon the writer, as we say?

The 1985 Picture Book listing names the illustrator first, Anthony Browne / Annalena McAfee.

The U.S. Caldecott Medal (picture book) and the U.K. Kate Greenaway Medal (illustrated children's book) both recognise the illustrator rather than the writer.

The U.K. Kurt Maschler Award (1982 to 1999) awarded both writer and illustrator, we say.

--P64 (talk) 15:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Sources for recent nominees
For 2010 and 2011 we give identical sets of five references, one for each award category. The links now hit nominees for the 2012 awards (which are not listed here).

Evidently these are "current" or "latest" lists of nominees by award category. The target pages may include link(s) to recent lists that have been retired annually, but many English-language visitors will struggle to learn that.

The five references may include some English-language instruction, or one Note may handle the task for all categories. Or the references need annual update.

The article now desperately needs {update}. Evidently 2012 winners will be announced in three months (October). --P64 (talk) 15:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Winners source
1956–1959. We list three winners in two categories, including "Children's book" awards to both Fatio/Duvoisin and Lindgren. Using the official database search (Datenbanksuche) I find only two with Fatio/Duvoisin the sole Kinderbuch. For 1957, too, that search reports only two where we list three. 1958, three. 1959, one.
 * (next day) These two search reports were generated by search (Suchen) specifying two fields only: [1] Preisjahr=1956; Preisträger; [2] Preisjahr=1959; Preisträger. ...

Is there another source for our listings? --P64 (talk) 17:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

P.S. At least for 1956 German Wikipedia differs yet again, with a distinct third prize. de:Deutscher Jugendliteraturpreis --P64 (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It all depends what you call a winner. If you extend your search to all entries from 1956, you'll find the titles you mention (Mio, Schleier, Doko) among the 71 results; they are listed as "Prämie" which the German Wikipedia article takes to mean "Sonderpreis" (special prize). The entry in the English article should be corrected accordingly. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * (continued from above) These notes may be helpful to others here.
 * Preisjahr=1956, all other fields blank, reports 71 hits (=2+69+6).
 * Experimentation shows that the 71 entries for 1956 comprise three exclusive sublists:
 * * 2 Preisträger [1, above] winners
 * * 69 Auswahlliste shortlist, namely 10 Kinderbuch, 47 Jugendbuch (inferred), 6 Sachbuch — I infer that three regular (non special) prize categories were defined, perhaps funded by the legislation, but no prize was awarded in the third category (nonfiction).
 * * 6 Kategorie=Prämie premium
 * Nominierung nomination seems to be empty before 1996; Auswahlliste shortlist empty from 1996.


 * There is some anomaly re Kategorie=Prämie, which exists only 1956 to 1970 [all years]. Beginning 1958 all are labeled Auswahlliste; for 1956 and 1957 they are not; only for 1956 they are indicated in the German Wikipedia list.
 * For me this will be useful in biographies (I arrived from Roger Duvoisin and Louise Fatio) and perhaps in book articles. --P64 (talk) 17:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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