Talk:Devil's Sea

I did not change the article, but maybe one of you may add that the Dragon Triangle is antipodal to the South Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly. That alone should endow the region with some unusual properties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.92.136 (talk) 17:18, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

agonic lines
i removed this Contrary to several claims, neither the Devil's Sea nor the Bermuda Triangle is located on the agonic line, where the magnetic north equals the geographic north. The magnetic declination in this area is about 6°.

the agonic lines move, and both the 0 points are inside and around both areas. removed for pseudoskepticism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.1.253 (talk) 09:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

What is the significance of this? 132.64.64.225 (talk) 19:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

This statement needs revision, elaboration and reference support. The magnetic variation (or magnetic declination) changes over time. A location where the variation is 6 degrees West would have likely been an agonic line within the past century or vice versa, a location where the variation is 6 degrees East will likely be an agonic line within the next century. Also local changes in variation occur due to magnetic deposits such as iron or magnetite. Let it also be noted that it is insufficient to say 6 degrees without giving a direction to the variation because geographically these lines can be well over a thousand kilometers apart and from a navigational standpoint, not giving the direction of variation can double the compass error. An official, up to date navigational or survey chart of the locations would be needed to verify the truth of this statement.

Japanese Government Ref
I removed the following text:


 * It has also been known for strange occurrences and has been officially recognized as a danger zone by the government of Japan.

Before saying something has been 'officially recognized' it needs an official reference. --Maustrauser 01:58, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Italic texthmmmm what can i say that simply —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.55.102.71 (talk • contribs).

No Japanese People Know It
We Japanese paranormal researchers wondered what is it? for decades.

The History Channel clues visited Japanese skeptics such as Mr. Ryutaro Minakami. So, they know the truth!

You can find it in Kusche's book.Kadzuwo (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

This article should make clear that the whole thing is nonsense
Quoting http://www.unmuseum.org/soearch/over0104.htm:
 * Inventing the "Devil's Sea" - On January 15th, 1955 a report in the New York Times about a maritime disaster referred to a location off the southeastern coast of Japan as the "Devil's Sea." With this another legend, almost as well-known as the "Bermuda Triangle," was born. This section of the ocean reportedly has been responsible for the loss of many ships under mysterious circumstances. Research suggests, however, that the existence of anything mysterious about the Devil's Sea is more hype than fact. Reports that the ships mysteriously disappeared without sending a radio message is not that strange considering that most of the ships were owned by poor fisherman who could not afford radios.

Quoting http://surbrook.devermore.net/pdepartment/pdparanormal.html:
 * The Devil's Sea - Located in the Sea of Japan, the Devil's Sea is a presumed area of ocean where numerous ships and aircraft have vanished. In reality, there is no such area, and most of the mythology has been built up around a few New York Times articles from 1952 and 1955, and an article in the January 14, 1955 Yomiuri Shimbun. About the only trace of truth to the entire story is that the Japanese Maritime Safety Agency has issued a warning for ships to avoid the Myojin Reefs, located some 300 miles to the south of Tokyo and home to several submerged, but active, volcanos.

These are just two of the first few links from this Google search. The "importance" of the so-called "Devil's Sea" seems to be primarily in the minds of devotées of the "Atlantis" theory regarding the Bermuda Triangle. Tom e rTALK 04:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I've added some bits to take the mystery out and some facts in. Having looked it up it appears that there really is an exclusion zone, but this is due to volcanic activity. Totnesmartin 20:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

hi
i dont get it ?????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.54.204.19 (talk • contribs).


 * Nor do I mate. Some people will believe anything. Totnesmartin 20:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

bermuda and devil are "pararel" through the center of the earth
i am sure of it as i saw a discovery chanell... its hard to explain as i am not native english speaker they are opesed through the center of the earthhh

like this: A--B


 * First things first - please do not remove comments from the talk page.

about your argument: North America and Japan are both in the Northern Hemisphere, so a line from one to the other would not go through the centre of the earth. In fact the opposite point of the Bermuda triangle would be off Western Australia. The opposite point of the Devil's sea would be off southern Brazil. I hope my reply helps you understand this common mistake. Totnesmartin 17:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Berlitz school of language
The section Charles Berlitz's claims says: curious to know why they were losing all their stuff, etc. Are these Berlitz's exact words? He was a language teacher, and the use of stuff in this way is relatively recent. Can anyone with his book put me right on this? Totnesmartin 12:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Having found a copy in a second-hand shop and looked up the offending paragraph, it appears (heh) that it was a misquote as I suspected. I've changed the paragraph so that it states his claims rather than "quoting" his text. Totnesmartin 19:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There was a particularly shoddy special on the History Channel about this area and it claimed, via Berlitz' research and among other "UFO experts", that the Dragon's Triangle was responsible for the disappearances of 1500 ships over the past 50 years with a magnetic "difference" of 30', both of which I have a hard time believing was actually stated in his book, much less true. -208.120.207.125 (talk) 04:27, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

POV
Just removed some POV bits. Someone wrote that ships and planes disappear "particularly often" in the Bermuda Triangle - in fact the rate is no higher than anywhere else. Someone also put a fact tag on the tale of the Urashima Taro legend - but this info is from that page! Totnesmartin 16:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Map
Done! Totnesmartin 17:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Formosa Triangle
Every sources of the Formosa Triangle which I could find came from this Wikipedia article or the Dawud's claim. If the claim is not acceptable, the Formosa Triangle should be removed from this article. Onhigan (talk) 15:58, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * In April 2006, the word first appeared on this Wikipedia article by somebody in Indonesia.
 * In August 2006, new article "Formosa Triangle" has been created with references to Indonesian books written by Dawud, Muhammad Isa. The article was deleted in 2009.
 * In February 2007, Lenntech created "Water mythology" page, and claimed the Formosa Triangle like the Wikipedia article at that time.
 * In August 2013, the Dawud's claim has been translated to English.

Devil's Sea/Dragon's Triangle
I believe that this article should put at least a decent amount of emphasis on the possible correlation to this region of sea and the alleged location of the ancient island of japanese origin, known as yamatai. besides that 👌 001connor r cheadle001 (talk) 20:47, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @001connor r cheadle001 We would need sources complying withWP:V and WP:RS. Doug Weller  talk 10:53, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Please don't let technology and science fool u Bermuda triangle is very much real
I begging you please God, Jesus and Bermuda triangle is very much real 74.33.227.122 (talk) 15:32, 29 November 2022 (UTC)